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littlemissmartypants

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2. The "aging population and the rising cost of health care"

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:57 AM

Jan 2013

I think were his words...?

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Did Obama say that Medicare is the biggest contributor to the deficit? [View all] Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 OP

It IS the biggest driver of our deficits! phleshdef Jan 2013 #1

Exactly! PragmaticLiberal Jan 2013 #3

SS is in better shape than Medicare. amandabeech Jan 2013 #6

He should mention all of the above. phleshdef Jan 2013 #9

Neither does defense. In fact, defense doesn't get anything except money from the federal HiPointDem Jan 2013 #49

A lot of what goes into the "Defense" budget actually does go into the domestic economy Alameda Jan 2013 #53

big deal, so does a lot of medical spending. Defense spending drives deficits. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Jan 2013 #55

After all this discussion how is it possible people still don't understand the basics? dkf Jan 2013 #11

Don't get what? GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #57

God damn. Be careful. Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 #12

Here: AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #13

So are those deficits from Bush tax cuts going to morph into deficits from Obama tax cuts? dkf Jan 2013 #15

Thats the past drivers of the current debt as it stands today. Future deficit projections phleshdef Jan 2013 #23

And the tax cuts got us here AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #48

They don't go away because unemployment is currently a far bigger problem than the deficit. bornskeptic Jan 2013 #58

Tax cuts do nothing to help employment AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #64

Hogwash. More than half of medicare costs are paid directly by beneficiaries. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #20

Wrong. phleshdef Jan 2013 #25

When you look at a budget, the amounts are fungible. Igel Jan 2013 #35

weasel-language. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #38

Explain what 'biggest driver of our deficit' means.... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #29

+1 HiPointDem Jan 2013 #43

Try a dictionary. phleshdef Jan 2013 #59

So,you have no idea - you just repeat what others say... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #60

LOL. Wow what a powerful argument! phleshdef Jan 2013 #62

The "aging population and the rising cost of health care" littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #2

His words were: HiPointDem Jan 2013 #50

Probably Part D. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #4

And Part B-Doctors and outpatient care. dkf Jan 2013 #14

That is a falsehood. More than half of *all* medicare costs are paid by workers, through direct HiPointDem Jan 2013 #22

The payroll tax is only for part A. dkf Jan 2013 #26

... HiPointDem Jan 2013 #28

I am specifically addressing the part that we have paid into all our working careers... dkf Jan 2013 #46

Workers pay for close to 60% of ALL MEDICARE COSTS COMBINED. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #51

But Part B is paid for by recipients. It's cost is deducted from SS checks. nt brush Jan 2013 #37

That covers 25% of the cost of part b. Mostly it comes from the general fund. dkf Jan 2013 #45

It's a great article--worth the time from the local Austin, TX, rag. amandabeech Jan 2013 #19

Dunno about active duty or Tricare, but... TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #21

yea, I just listened to it, those are exact words quinnox Jan 2013 #5

They shouldn't deny it. He said it. He has been saying it for years. And its 100% true. phleshdef Jan 2013 #7

He has said this since he started running for President in 2007 kaiserhog Jan 2013 #8

He did, because it's a fact frazzled Jan 2013 #10

Well, I certainly hope your second to the last sentence is true. senseandsensibility Jan 2013 #16

Bush Policies are the biggest drivers of the deficits AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #18

That is presuming nothing has or will have changed frazzled Jan 2013 #24

Subtracting the wars AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #47

That is the chart I have always used -- it draws a very clear picture, doesn't it? Samantha Jan 2013 #30

Defense spending is 19% of the combined federal budget. Medicare spending funded from general HiPointDem Jan 2013 #31

Asset (Wealth) tax to pay for defense? exboyfil Jan 2013 #34

You need to throw Medicaid in with Medicare, and include the impact of ACA. Hoyt Jan 2013 #56

I believe it's not about the portion of the budget represented frazzled Jan 2013 #63

End of life care is crazy expensive for a lot of people. Lots of elderly die in ICUs mucifer Jan 2013 #17

DEATH PANELS!!!!!! exboyfil Jan 2013 #36

He said he is willing to make cuts in ways that do not cut benefits Samantha Jan 2013 #27

you realize that these cuts for 'waste' and 'redundancy' have been ongoing, right? how much HiPointDem Jan 2013 #32

There's tons of waste jeff47 Jan 2013 #39

I'm all for that. I doubt it will ever happen; things are the way they are to ASSIST pharma in HiPointDem Jan 2013 #40

We'll see. jeff47 Jan 2013 #42

yes, indeed, we'll see. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #44

That is the place to start in the new year exboyfil Jan 2013 #41

Yes, I do realize that and I should have included fraud Samantha Jan 2013 #61

Medicaid Long Term Care exboyfil Jan 2013 #33

We need the system France has...100% best system in the universe...but graham4anything Jan 2013 #52