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Prairie Gates

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85. What in the world

Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:19 AM

Apr 7

How did you get from "they don't have to go home" to "they can impeach the President on their own?"

At least attempt not to throw out ridiculous strawman arguments.

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In light of Trump's insane rhetoric and demented rant, where are the Democrats who will stand up and stop him? [View all] lees1975 Apr 7 OP

Hey Come On; they are working on a strongly worded letter, but it must be cleared by Democratic pollsters first! Chasstev365 Apr 7 #1

Oh just stop with this tired meme mcar Apr 7 #93

Thank you. evolves Apr 7 #119

It's tough love and accurate Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #136

I disagree that it's "tough love" and it's not accurate mcar Apr 7 #207

why people still use MSM? Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #243

Oh just stop complaining about it Disaffected Apr 7 #161

Lol! 😆 Dave Bowman Apr 7 #192

Passionate strongly-worded rallies throughout the land did not result in grassroots political revolution as promised. betsuni Apr 7 #215

And where TF are YOU? Trueblue Texan Apr 7 #218

Please stop! agingdem Apr 7 #156

How would Dems stop him? I'm not sure that's possible. 3_Limes Apr 7 #2

So say and do nothing? Chasstev365 Apr 7 #4

And that would accomplish what, exactly? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #7

I refuse to be a sheep! Chasstev365 Apr 7 #10

Huh? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #18

Your answer is to sit and do nothing. Huh? Chasstev365 Apr 7 #19

Wrong. But Your answer is to do something performative that accomplishes nothiing Wiz Imp Apr 7 #27

Isn't everything Trump does performative and it's been effective with the uninformed? Chasstev365 Apr 7 #41

Right!? How many influential people affiliated with the administration do nothing of substance? ck4829 Apr 7 #52

And you think those same people are going to be impressed by a Democratic press conference? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #60

Trump is not simply "performative" - he's got ICE terrifying this country TBF Apr 7 #248

That is a weak H2O Man Apr 7 #265

So, what exactly are YOU doing, Chief? TBF Apr 7 #28

I know I called my Republican Senators yesterday and crickets... Hope22 Apr 7 #159

Let us know H2O Man Apr 7 #266

How did Mitch McConnell so effectively block Obama and Biden from 80% of what they wanted. lees1975 Apr 7 #22

He didn't. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #29

Significant legislation blocked by Republicans when Dems had a majority. lees1975 Apr 7 #216

Try again. Only one of your claims is partially true Wiz Imp Apr 7 #242

Well done! H2O Man Apr 7 #267

A voice against the insanity. That's the job of the opposition party. Scrivener7 Apr 7 #126

RFN! The head Democrats should be giving an Urgent Address to the Nation Ars Longa Apr 7 #49

This. Thank you. Scrivener7 Apr 7 #129

This would do something. Kid Berwyn Apr 7 #167

People here would sneer mcar Apr 7 #95

I feel like they are working sagetea Apr 7 #157

I was told Garland was working in the shadows too. He wasn't. Scrivener7 Apr 7 #196

And yet we still have not achieved universal healthcare when we held House, and 60-40 Senate in 2009 (briefly) Moostache Apr 7 #102

it's much easier to block progress than build something good LymphocyteLover Apr 7 #127

This is my question, too. -misanthroptimist Apr 7 #200

What Greg_In_SF Apr 7 #3

Stop their fund raising nest feathering, get together as a group and call this out. lees1975 Apr 7 #6

And what exactly would that accomplish? It would stop nothing. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #11

Only Republicans can stop the President? ck4829 Apr 7 #20

Only for the first 2 years SocialDemocrat61 Apr 7 #163

It seems a group here has become wedded to that Scrivener7 Apr 7 #133

And you could say the same thing about people insisting Democrats are always doing nothing EdmondDantes_ Apr 7 #183

So they should... give a speech? EarlG Apr 7 #170

Seems delulu if I'm being honest. BannonsLiver Apr 7 #176

I suppose it would make people like the original poster happy, at least LymphocyteLover Apr 7 #130

So, tell us how they should accomplish that. MineralMan Apr 7 #5

If I want to read right-wing drivel, TBF Apr 7 #8

Bravo!!!! Wiz Imp Apr 7 #15

And when Democrats had the majority under Obama and Biden lees1975 Apr 7 #16

🎯 Chasstev365 Apr 7 #21

Get on the phone & call Congress right fucking now - TBF Apr 7 #23

He didn't say anything about blaming Democrats Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #144

Any suggestion that Democrats should act like a true Scrivener7 Apr 7 #199

I really hope we can criticize ourselves moving forward Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #206

That's not what I said - but nice try, sport. TBF Apr 7 #250

No they didn't. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #32

Yes they did. I don't remember the exact count lees1975 Apr 7 #51

And how many Trump bills have passed the Senate? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #57

One big beautiful bill lees1975 Apr 7 #69

Zero Democrats voted for the One Big Beautiful Bill Wiz Imp Apr 7 #79

Thank you. betsuni Apr 7 #96

When reality doesn't fit the narrative, just spread lies about Democrats... tritsofme Apr 7 #124

Obama had a filibuster proof majority in the senate from September 24, 2009 to Feb. 4, 2010. betsuni Apr 7 #68

And there were only 72 working days during that period. n/t markpkessinger Apr 7 #191

Wow! Wiz Imp Apr 7 #117

The implication seems to be that Democrats should filibuster Trump's war EarlG Apr 7 #182

Got it - you won't stop until you insult every democrat you can think of. n/t TBF Apr 7 #77

80%? mcar Apr 7 #98

Of course they don't. It's not remotely close to being true. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #122

Republicans were able to block THE most important thing- SCOTUS nominations Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #147

That's only because Republicans had a Senate majority. tritsofme Apr 7 #150

I'm more concerned about Republicans who have controlled SCOTUS for 75 years Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #155

Recess appointment? There was no recess. What are you even talking about? tritsofme Apr 7 #169

Incredible, isn't it? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #172

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The person who said Republicans blocked a Supreme court nominee while in Wiz Imp Apr 7 #219

of course there was a recess Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #173

No, there wasn't, the Senate held pro-forma sessions to prevent recess appointments. tritsofme Apr 7 #181

you're talking about some of his other recess apppointments Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #189

No, there was no serious path for Obama to make a recess appointment. tritsofme Apr 7 #195

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Wow! Wiz Imp Apr 7 #238

I can see who's lacking self awareness Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #239

Again, the person who believed the Republicans blocked a Supreme Court nominee when they were in the minority Wiz Imp Apr 7 #244

You haven't elucidated anything that could have reasonably been "tried." You're just selling magic beans. tritsofme Apr 7 #241

Wrong. nt mcar Apr 7 #211

Republicans were in the MAJORITY when they blocked the Supreme Court nomination Wiz Imp Apr 7 #164

Republicans controlled the senate, had the majority in 2015. betsuni Apr 7 #166

IIRC, in the runup to the 2016 GE mcar Apr 7 #212

Look it up. lees1975 Apr 7 #193

You are absolutely right. Katinfl Apr 7 #110

Seriously! Listen, I'm the last person to be on a "Let's look at Dems" rant Prairie Gates Apr 7 #9

The REPUBLICAN, who is speaker of the House, sent them home. nt TBF Apr 7 #25

They are free agents and can go where they want Prairie Gates Apr 7 #34

You are telling me the dems can impeach the president while TBF Apr 7 #81

What in the world Prairie Gates Apr 7 #85

i think most of them are typing rhetorical questions on message boards Torchlight Apr 7 #12

Social media interns must be overwhelmed leftstreet Apr 7 #17

Senator Van Hollen is speaking on MSNOW calling him unhinged. spanone Apr 7 #13

Well, that's effective. lees1975 Apr 7 #38

You asked. spanone Apr 7 #47

Yet you think a Democratic press conference is going to do what? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #65

Swift goalposts Torchlight Apr 7 #75

Senator Van Hollen is MY Senior Senator! BlueMTexpat Apr 7 #118

The only thing they seem to be doing is complaining about Democrats Wiz Imp Apr 7 #125

Exactly! BlueMTexpat Apr 7 #264

What do you suggest they do? City Lights Apr 7 #14

For one thing, Mark Kelly needs to re-iterate his "Illegal Orders" challenge on national television. lees1975 Apr 7 #31

take a minute to look to see who is doing these things, and highlight them here. bigtree Apr 7 #40

Well, I tried Just_Vote_Dem Apr 7 #247

Those things would not "work" they are pure fantasy, you're pushing nonsense and faery tales tritsofme Apr 7 #131

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Let's see here. Here are some ideas. And the "let's do nothing"-ists can go on by ck4829 Apr 7 #26

And how does that stop Trump from dropping a nuke if he wants to do that? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #35

If he does, he does? Trump dropping a nuke is not an excuse to not do the things I listed. ck4829 Apr 7 #45

🙄 Wiz Imp Apr 7 #55

When and how did we become so weak? ck4829 Apr 7 #67

Hi... when and how did it happen? ck4829 Apr 7 #162

as if we care about this more than them bigtree Apr 7 #30

Quite a bit of power to thwart, judging from how well the Republicans have done it when they were the minority. lees1975 Apr 7 #36

You seem to think Republicans accomplished a hell of a lot more in the minority Wiz Imp Apr 7 #43

Look at their record. lees1975 Apr 7 #71

Name one Republican priority that passed the Senate due to Democratic votes? Wiz Imp Apr 7 #87

The first government shutdown. lees1975 Apr 7 #197

Not republican priority legislation. Must pass legislation. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #233

What blockade record? What legislation did they block? betsuni Apr 7 #54

that fallacy is old and tired bigtree Apr 7 #62

Uh huh. lees1975 Apr 7 #72

and there it is bigtree Apr 7 #84

They are totally uninformed and ignorant of basic facts. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #89

This! mcar Apr 7 #107

Democratic leaders could use their voices to lead an opposition. Kid Berwyn Apr 7 #180

they are bigtree Apr 7 #268

Yes, we could have had not one but two strong, qualified women mcar Apr 7 #214

For those who think the Democratic Party should do nothing, explain to me why this would be wrong: Chasstev365 Apr 7 #33

And as I stated earlier. A leadership press conference would accomplish NOTHING! Wiz Imp Apr 7 #39

We'll have to totally disagree on this Chasstev365 Apr 7 #42

Maybe not. But a leadership press conference with a court order stopping the President until Congress approves lees1975 Apr 7 #46

That court order ITAL Apr 7 #63

A stay is a win. lees1975 Apr 7 #73

You misunderstand ITAL Apr 7 #80

If the first court issued a stay, the supreme court sitting on it just extends the stay unless they remove it. lees1975 Apr 7 #201

No court is going to issue such a stay to begin with. This frame is completely divorced from reality. tritsofme Apr 7 #205

Actually if a court issues the order, it is enforceable until it is stayed. lees1975 Apr 7 #217

Yes, if a court issued that order. That's the fantasy part. tritsofme Apr 7 #226

It's incredibly depressing to read such nonsense fact-free fantasy on DU. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #236

I didn't say a Federal Court would issue a stay ITAL Apr 7 #245

For those who think the party should "stop this" act BannonsLiver Apr 7 #177

They Rebl2 Apr 7 #37

Stop with the bullshit. FIrst of all, Democrats aren't the majority party right now, because enough Americans thought lostincalifornia Apr 7 #44

What is your idea of how DEMOCRATS can stop him? hay rick Apr 7 #48

If we think real hard and click our heels 3 times. BannonsLiver Apr 7 #178

This may get me banned DonCoquixote Apr 7 #50

AIPAC keeps track. Kid Berwyn Apr 7 #174

This is exactly why both parties are refusing to exercise their war powers Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #198

THEY ARE ALL ON VACATION johnnyfins Apr 7 #53

I hope they're fucking enjoying it orangecrush Apr 7 #64

NO, THEY ARE NOT ALL ON VACATION bigtree Apr 7 #76

Anyone demanding the Democrats do something please tell us what the Democrats can do to stop this Fullduplexxx Apr 7 #56

NOT MY JOB orangecrush Apr 7 #61

For starters, show some interest by stopping your vacation and caucusing in DC. lees1975 Apr 7 #88

Then what? BannonsLiver Apr 7 #179

What are they doing? lees1975 Apr 7 #220

MAKE.SOME.FUCKING.NOISE.FFS. demmiblue Apr 7 #58

THIS THIS THIS johnnyfins Apr 7 #115

Where is Congress, period? orangecrush Apr 7 #59

It's up to us democrats to show up crud Apr 7 #66

K&R ck4829 Apr 7 #70

Why are you attacking the Dems? obamanut2012 Apr 7 #74

Good question. DURHAM D Apr 7 #78

Interesting OP doesn't have an OP calling out the GOP obamanut2012 Apr 7 #82

Why is that my job? Why can't elected Democrats in Congress do that? lees1975 Apr 7 #91

+1 orangecrush Apr 7 #97

I see you obamanut2012 Apr 7 #113

It's not your "job" to attack republicans - is that what you just said? TBF Apr 7 #263

It sure is - I tried to point out that the Republicans TBF Apr 7 #252

What do you want Democrats to do? Justice Apr 7 #83

Take a wild ass guess orangecrush Apr 7 #90

I just love the excuses that come out here whenever Democratic leadership is asked to display courage, take a risk and lees1975 Apr 7 #86

Oh, my, what do you EXPECT THEM TO DOOOO??? orangecrush Apr 7 #92

Wow obamanut2012 Apr 7 #114

Yeah, Wow orangecrush Apr 7 #123

Maybe instead of just calling Trump names SomedayKindaLove Apr 7 #143

Yes. orangecrush Apr 7 #152

Well something is better than nothing. lees1975 Apr 7 #203

And yet you sneered at the fact that Sen Van Hollen mcar Apr 7 #222

"Courage" is a meaningless word that people throw around when they don't have an effective action to suggest. FascismIsDeath Apr 7 #104

Sorry I'm 69 years old orangecrush Apr 7 #109

How about actually doing something with some risk, knowing exactly what needs to be done? lees1975 Apr 7 #209

That sounds great if you are writing a fantasy script. tritsofme Apr 7 #210

As I asked in reply #5, what, exactly, do you want them to do? MineralMan Apr 7 #106

You can see a number of people saying Democratic leadership should call a press conference. Wiz Imp Apr 7 #138

Yes. My point, exactly. MineralMan Apr 7 #139

"The only objective MorbidButterflyTat Apr 7 #259

How? mcar Apr 7 #94

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This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Apr 7 #103

Why don't you get in touch with the mcar Apr 7 #100

They can't stop it Bettie Apr 7 #101

"Can't" orangecrush Apr 7 #111

They can try, but we're dealing with Bettie Apr 7 #121

Many are, as shown several times in this thread mcar Apr 7 #223

Saw that after I posted Bettie Apr 7 #231

One more time DownriverDem Apr 7 #105

Comfort the afflicted orangecrush Apr 7 #108

Majority of Americans get their news/info from the BillionaireBoyzClub controlled social media sites. What NoMoreRepugs Apr 7 #112

This is tired, weak and untrue. Mr. Mustard 2023 Apr 7 #116

... orangecrush Apr 7 #128

Society is broken, this is just the latest symptom. OC375 Apr 7 #120

Where are the Republicans who will stand up and stop him? LoisB Apr 7 #132

yep, that's what we ultimately need- about 17 Republicans Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #149

Why don't you stop them? frogstar0 Apr 7 #134

Well, you've been here since 2004 orangecrush Apr 7 #146

Just another low post count, long time lurker chiming in CuriousSavage Apr 7 #194

They need to appear anywhere and everywhere karin_sj Apr 7 #135

If they had a backbone MW67 Apr 7 #137

The Republicans can't even stop him. Donny, the criminally insane, is not playing by the rules. camartinwv Apr 7 #140

Message deleted by the DU Administrators orangecrush Apr 7 #148

There are some Dems (including leaders) who enjoy war porn Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #141

Episode 3,214 of the "Where Are Democrats, Why Don't They Stop Republicans?" show: THE 80%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! betsuni Apr 7 #142

This entire thread is indicative of WHY Dems can't MuchBetterThanThis Apr 7 #145

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Saying we're divisive is divisive Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #153

Well said orangecrush Apr 7 #154

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all be Democrats just like you? NNadir Wednesday #270

Stop him how, exactly? NT Happy Hoosier Apr 7 #158

Reconvene orangecrush Apr 7 #165

Does the gravity of the situation need underscoring? EarlG Apr 7 #188

there's a large swath that has no clue what's going on Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 7 #202

Of course it does! Are you kidding? And yes, there are large swaths Scrivener7 Apr 7 #204

If people are so checked out that EarlG Apr 7 #221

I don't know what a shadow session is, and I don't think Scrivener7 Apr 7 #228

The post of mine that you replied to EarlG Apr 7 #232

Having seen only a handful of statements this morning, I went looking for what you are seeing. Scrivener7 Apr 7 #249

I agree with you that they should be speaking out, and it is good to see them doing so EarlG Apr 7 #257

If we get through today without having a genocide on our hands, I still say the Scrivener7 Apr 7 #258

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Apr 7 #234

I don't think they have the power to do that. Happy Hoosier Apr 7 #235

Great question. Kid Berwyn Apr 7 #160

Where are the Greens that will stop him? maxsolomon Apr 7 #168

MAGAt Republicans can't even stand up to Piggy about their shoe sizes. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 7 #171

That framing is absolute horse shit. BannonsLiver Apr 7 #175

IT IS THE REPUBLICANS' RESPONSIBILITY. THEY ARE THE MAJORITY. niyad Apr 7 #184

Being actively silenced by our billionaire criminal owned media? Initech Apr 7 #185

How exactly kacekwl Apr 7 #186

Oh Geez Not This Again NBachers Apr 7 #187

You do realize that Democrats are not just fighting TSF, but the House, the Senate and sometimes the supreme court. bluestarone Apr 7 #208

Just How Would the Democrats Stop Him? Indykatie Apr 7 #213

It's not the Democrats HAB911 Apr 7 #224

BTW, I just spent 5 minutes on Bluesky and saw a bunch of elected Democrats mcar Apr 7 #227

... TBF Apr 7 #255

Yep! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 7 #261

I see no reason why we shouldn't all be panicking. snot Apr 7 #229

Writing letters and offering words Bread and Circuses Apr 7 #237

Yeah this is the time to be vocal even if it doesn't do anything ecstatic Apr 7 #240

Here are statements from the House and Senate Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Apr 7 #246

Credit where credit is due, I am happy to see this. This is exactly where the starting point is. lees1975 Apr 7 #251

See below - one of the democratic reps also filed Articles of Impeachment. TBF Apr 7 #256

Possibly the forbearance of the Democrats could be no_hypocrisy Apr 7 #253

You can stop blaming democrats now - here is your action TBF Apr 7 #254

Too little too late- just kidding Redleg Apr 7 #260

and here bigtree Apr 7 #269

I had to do a small something. Called ( my Senator) Schumer's DC office... electric_blue68 Apr 7 #262