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-misanthroptimist

(1,889 posts)
8. Like going broke it started slowly, then fast
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:01 PM
Apr 7

It probably began in earnest when the New Deal put the mega-rich into a tizzy. They even tried for a coup in the 1930s. That failed but they continued working and plotting.

Then in the 1950s, we went about countering Communism in just about the stupidest way possible.

Add into that the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s which cost the Democrats the "Solid South". Hey, at least the Democratic Party got rid of almost all of their racists.

Additionally, faux-patriots were outraged by our loss in Vietnam.

The Women's Movement outraged another group of barbarians.

In the 1980s, Reaganism (which primarily appeared due to economic issues that were beyond any President's control) took hold. Televangelists also became popular, roping in people who needed a Biblical reason to continue hating those around them.

In the 1990s - 2000s, the internet became a thing. Right-wingers were getting destroyed in debates, what with facts and reality having their well-known liberal bias. This made the anti-American faux-patriots even angrier and led them to just give up on facts for the most part. They began using isolated facts out of context to "support" their arguments, or they just made things up. They discovered that this worked due to the fact that the net allowed their BS to spread around the world at a high rate of speed. So, they just started lying non-stop, knowing that they could just move onto the next lie while the previous one was still being countered by those that had read a book or could think critically.

But the cherry on top was that America elected a...a...a black man President!! Even their lies didn't prevent it. All of their hard work to undermine liberal democracy was at stake.

It got even worse when Democrats nominated a...a...a woman for President! This could not be tolerated by the right wing and allowed them to bring whatever misogynists and chauvinists hadn't already signed onto their movement.

That's the bullet points. Of course, the whole thing start-to-finish descended from the fact that Union didn't hold the leaders of the Confederacy accountable nor the States that joined the Confederacy. Had the South been dealt with properly at the conclusion of the Civil War, little of the above would have happened. Now, we likely have to do the whole thing over again.

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Murdoch,Limbaugh and the great redneck brainwashing of the last 25 years Blues Heron Apr 7 #1
Lee and Hitler must be looking up right now ck4829 Apr 7 #4
Hitler DID have a media propaganda machine. A pretty comprehensive one, for the times. Aristus Apr 7 #34
Oh no, he had one for his own country for sure ck4829 Apr 7 #35
YES! GaYellowDawg Apr 7 #27
And I think in this case, psychology and socialization are factors here too ck4829 Apr 7 #42
100% this Cosmocat Apr 7 #28
All of this and more 31st Street Bridge Apr 7 #36
That was so much another part of the decline, along with the electoral clown college ck4829 Apr 7 #48
Yup. I'd even argue it goes back further. bearsfootball516 Apr 7 #53
Talk radio was being fed pro-fascist propaganda planted by Washington Times. blm Apr 7 #56
Consolidation of media,... magicarpet Apr 7 #62
It was a continuous process. Trump is the end result dalton99a Apr 7 #2
If Republicans have taught us one thing: They only go one direction... downhill! ck4829 Apr 7 #5
Ask student Gaza protestors leftstreet Apr 7 #3
Yep, I can see that. All factors for sure. ck4829 Apr 7 #6
We had two very good opportunities to avoid that. MineralMan Apr 7 #7
You're describing, perfectly, the manifestation of the decline. I'm curious, though, about what caused it ck4829 Apr 7 #9
This is only one factor, but it is a big one LR3 Apr 7 #11
For sure. Remove wealth inequality, remove right-wing politics and the decline for sure ck4829 Apr 7 #12
I'm citing two specific elections where it made all the difference. MineralMan Apr 7 #13
Agreed 👍 MustLoveBeagles Apr 7 #14
I see what you are saying ck4829 Apr 7 #15
Like going broke it started slowly, then fast -misanthroptimist Apr 7 #8
Dang! Excellent points. Can certainly look at it like death by a thousand cuts ck4829 Apr 7 #10
I am taking a history class on understanding Tree Lady Apr 7 #16
Oh yes, a key part of the beginning of this ck4829 Apr 7 #19
Social Media question everything Apr 7 #17
Oh that is very important, media correcting itself ck4829 Apr 7 #23
Citizens United. nt intrepidity Apr 7 #18
Indeed, the ball rolling down sped up after that for sure ck4829 Apr 7 #24
It was built broken, on a framework of white supremacy. If we don't dismantle white supremacy, we'll keep struggling. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 7 #20
THIS Just_Vote_Dem Apr 7 #22
For sure ck4829 Apr 7 #25
The failure of Reconstruction and rise of the Gilded Age.. Taft splitting from Roosevelt haele Apr 7 #21
Oh yes, others have pointed this out. We couldn't have this decline without the failures of reconstruction ck4829 Apr 7 #26
Temporarily overcome by the country and people of muriel_volestrangler Apr 7 #29
There is a cause and a reaction, definitely ck4829 Apr 7 #31
Great lessons, all who posted. Really. All factors for sure. Read on them people reading this thread. I need to add this ck4829 Apr 7 #30
So the circle really has nothing to post now, huh? ck4829 Apr 7 #54
1770s Cirsium Apr 7 #32
I see that, I want to believe in something more hopeful ck4829 Apr 7 #37
of course Cirsium Apr 7 #40
I would say it all started with Reagan. Lonestarblue Apr 7 #33
Things definitely sped up downhill at that time during his term ck4829 Apr 7 #38
Borowitz in his book "Confederacy of Dunces" Shipwack Apr 7 #49
The Civil War and Reconstruction Johnny2X2X Apr 7 #39
We really are. ck4829 Apr 7 #47
I saw it coming with Reagan gay texan Apr 7 #41
They really are gonna have to learn that way ck4829 Apr 7 #45
James Earl Carter was the last of the greats. CoopersDad Apr 7 #43
Before my time ck4829 Apr 7 #44
Solar on the white house, Habitat for Humanity, his Malaise speech... CoopersDad Apr 7 #46
"What was to come" - That is the truth right there ck4829 Apr 7 #50
november 22 1963 to be precise. rampartd Apr 7 #51
Would be interesting to see what happened had that day took a different course ck4829 Apr 7 #52
WashTimes feeding pro-fascist propaganda to talkradio in 80s, begetting FOX 'news' in 90s. blm Apr 7 #55
Hey, the Unification Church was also involved with the Washington Times, right? Sun Myung Moon made it happen I think ck4829 Apr 7 #57
Sun Myung Moon had a longtime association with Poppy Bush blm Apr 7 #58
Same here ck4829 Apr 7 #61
We just got tired of progress in the 1970s meadowlander Apr 7 #59
And that is so unfortunate ck4829 Apr 7 #60
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