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hlthe2b

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80. We shall see. If you read what I wrote, I never suggested not holding anyone GENUINELY accountable

Fri Apr 10, 2026, 08:41 PM

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YET, the timing (and potential motivations) on and behind this are intensely suspect, and we would be fools not to investigate it fully BEFORE WE LYNCH ERIC SWALLWELL. I am concerned with fairness, and I think I made my point about how we were manipulated as hell by the whole Al Franken incident.

In wanting to make sure VALID accusations are appropriately dealt with, I also want to question why NOW? Swallwell has been in Congress a long time. Some here wish to take this at face value. THEY ARE ACCUSATIONS. Why do some not want them to be validated and investigated? Let's not be saps, okay? This hardcore feminist woman does not want Dems to make another horrific mistake if the truth is a "manipulated scenario." And yes, women do lie on occasion- just as the accused men quite often do

As I said, take a breath. Dems can be our own worst enemies quite often in our zeal to "do the right thing," but without taking the time to make sure of the facts (and who might be manipulating them).

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BREAKING: three *more* women have come forward to @cnn.com and accuse Rep. Eric Swalwell of sexual misconduct... [View all] demmiblue Friday OP

omg. thankfully before the primary. BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #1

Yeah, but too late for his name to be removed from the ballot. Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #23

Californians will figure it out BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #25

Ok, stupid question, is he married?? a kennedy Friday #2

Yes mr715 Friday #3

Thanks.....am only just starting to see all this stuff.... a kennedy Friday #5

Lots of stuff happening simultaneously. mr715 Friday #7

He did have an inappropriate relationship with Christine Fang who worked for Chinese intelligence. pcdb Friday #27

I thought they were married? mr715 Friday #34

Yes with children Lifeafter70 Friday #4

Thank you. a kennedy Friday #6

I remember posting about the time he brought his daughter, Cricket, to pay respect to RBG. demmiblue Friday #10

His daughter has the same name as the dog Noem killed? mr715 Friday #19

It's her nickname; Kathryn is her given name. n/t demmiblue Friday #29

Its a cute name regardless. mr715 Friday #32

Yes I remember that too Lifeafter70 Friday #42

yes with 3 kids BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #11

Damn, I hope these are untrue rumors. a kennedy Friday #13

sounds like he is the BIll Cosby of politics... women wake up in his bed, fuzzzy about how BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #17

It's OK to be proud of your penis Bettie Friday #8

If he did this he should be held accountable like anyone else. Trueblue Texan Friday #12

Especially an accusation with the name Roger Stone Bettie Friday #20

I haven't seen Stone's name attached to this one. Could you provide a link? Thanks. TheRickles Friday #64

No, no, i am not saying I have any proof Hanitty/Stone are pulling on Swalwell as they engineered on ,.. magicarpet Friday #76

You are thinking along the same lines as me wrt Roger Stone VMA131Marine Friday #96

No link has been provided to document the Stone connection, so I'm dubious. TheRickles Saturday #128

Reminds me that of, ugh, Bert Favor of the Packers, Jets, Vikings. a kennedy Friday #18

Brett Favre....I'm from Wisconsin! Bettie Friday #21

Yah, him, and I don't EVER say his name he's Bert Favor to me. a kennedy Friday #39

Oh no. He was one of my favorites. Irish_Dem Friday #9

I did not care for him. Red flags all over. Messy divorce prior to 2016. I am glad he is out of contention. John1956PA Friday #36

Wow I had no idea. Irish_Dem Friday #56

We have to accept a certain number of flaws in any candidate. John1956PA Friday #70

Except in the case of sexual assault...that should be a hard no. Melon Friday #105

Absolutely. You are correct about not tolerating the crime of sexual assault, if it is clearly apparent. John1956PA Friday #108

Zero tolerance on Sexual assault, sexual harassment jfz9580m Saturday #124

Well yes of course. Irish_Dem Saturday #122

If I ever learn of anything scandalous involving either of these two True Dough Friday #92

Same here, game over, wrap it up and go home. Irish_Dem Saturday #123

This seems strange?? walkingman Friday #14

Weird, huh? MorbidButterflyTat Friday #30

The Delores Huerta revelations about Cesar Chavez last month were very similar in that there were two separate incidents MichMan Saturday #145

I'm only going to take a breath, remembering the RW radio personality that set up Al Franken... hlthe2b Friday #15

Please also remember the 7 other women who came forward EdmondDantes_ Friday #71

We shall see. If you read what I wrote, I never suggested not holding anyone GENUINELY accountable hlthe2b Friday #80

Except by disregarding almost all of the accusations against Franken, it mostly just sounds like refusing to acknowledge EdmondDantes_ Friday #106

Your comment to me is disingenous and disgraceful. Shame on you. I did not say anything of the hlthe2b Friday #109

I'm going by what you posted in this thread EdmondDantes_ Saturday #119

Bullshit. hlthe2b Saturday #121

Is he the same Rep that served on the impeachment committee/panel? Deuxcents Friday #16

Yes. mr715 Friday #22

Then... MorbidButterflyTat Friday #28

Huh? mr715 Friday #37

Hook, line, and sinker. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #43

That isn't the flex you think it is. mr715 Friday #46

Seems like "Don't be a rapist!" is now one of those problematic purity tests people complain about. Lancero Sunday #147

Some purity test. mr715 Sunday #148

Hard to believe..he's been on Lawrence O many times. How do you run for higher office w/ these skeletons in your close Deuxcents Friday #33

WHY do you? mr715 Friday #35

Don't ever say what a man won't do. Maru Kitteh Friday #24

My mother always said never say not my man! Pisces Friday #48

Your mother was right Mossfern Saturday #134

Gee, I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with his running for California governor! MorbidButterflyTat Friday #26

There are plenty of cromulent Democrats running. mr715 Friday #40

Apparently his name will remain on the ballot. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #50

Yeah, ever hear of Tina Smith? mr715 Friday #53

Did I say Dems should support Dems no matter what? Why put words in my mouth, trying to support your vapid point? MorbidButterflyTat Friday #67

I'm with you. I'm reserving judgement until more provable facts are known. beaglelover Friday #81

I agree with you. choie Friday #94

Not by me MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #116

Totally agree. nt Raine Saturday #120

Rec. Xavier Breath Saturday #132

I have to say that your posted description of Democrats by using a niyad Saturday #112

I like it. mr715 Saturday #113

Yes, it is clear that you do. Interesting choices. niyad Saturday #114

I don't understand why men think Tree Lady Friday #31

Great timing with Melania's speech yesterday Grim Chieftain Friday #38

He's a very public figure.and long time congressman. Klarkashton Friday #41

That was my thought also senseandsensibility Friday #44

People knew Sympthsical Friday #63

Or Lindsay Graham. mr715 Friday #66

Why didn't this come out when he ran for President? Why now? FloridaBlues Friday #86

Huge field, where he never gained traction, so was never really vetted karynnj Friday #100

It's almost like Republicans escape such issues, but Democrats are tarred with them bucolic_frolic Friday #45

Because Democrats care if their candidates are accused of such things, Republicans apparently don't. sop Friday #72

The women's experience suggests their drinks were spiked stollen Friday #47

Hope this is not a right wing ploy to torpedo his election chances. magicarpet Friday #49

Of course it is. CoopersDad Friday #59

It's obvious. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #87

It's over. RandySF Friday #51

This is bad dsc Friday #52

and there go the endorsements: WhiskeyGrinder Friday #54

Why do I smell Republican hit job on this? Botany Friday #55

because it is New Breed Leader Friday #57

The timing H2O Man Friday #60

The timing srinks Lifeafter70 Saturday #117

Same here jfz9580m Saturday #129

This is why I ignored the "People need to drop out!" chorus Sympthsical Friday #58

I'm convinced this is more some_of_us_are_sane Friday #61

Eric is fighting: New Breed Leader Friday #62

Good. beaglelover Friday #85

Wow. I hate to hear this. bamagal62 Friday #65

He should run on the Republican ticket Orrex Friday #68

They'd put those allegations True Dough Friday #95

I think it's essential we give Rep. Swalwell the benefit of the doubt Grim Chieftain Friday #69

Interesting Rebl2 Friday #73

Plus the Epstein files are back in the news Grim Chieftain Friday #75

Correct Rebl2 Friday #79

Or paid by Tom Steyer beaglelover Friday #83

Steyer has a tv ad running here saying Swallwell missed a lot of votes and IcyPeas Friday #101

Republicans Rebl2 Saturday #135

Definitely! beaglelover Friday #82

Republicans would've waited until after the primary Sympthsical Friday #84

We have a jungle primary out here in CA. The top 2 candidates from the primary go to the general. beaglelover Friday #88

I am not nearly as panicked about this as social media seem to be Sympthsical Friday #93

I hope you are correct. I'm not sure I could back a billionaire but if he's the last Democrat standing in the general beaglelover Friday #98

I hear you, and that's perfectly fair Sympthsical Friday #99

Thanks for pointing that out. yardwork Saturday #136

Agree. It's very monkey's paw, tho Sympthsical Saturday #138

Are there more surprises lurking in the field? yardwork Saturday #139

Not that I'm aware of Sympthsical Saturday #140

Even if the accusations were not true, Swalwell needs to officially drop out, even though his name will remain on the lostincalifornia Friday #74

Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #91

Timing is very suspect. I will reserve judgement until more provable facts come out. beaglelover Friday #77

I'm so disappointed in him kimbutgar Friday #78

And how do you know the accusations are true? Grim Chieftain Friday #107

+1,000,000,000 MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #115

Actually at first I thought it was false but then i got nervous it is true kimbutgar Saturday #141

I am concerned it might be true, too Grim Chieftain Saturday #142

I'm going to withhold judgement. It's not that I don't believe he might be capable of it - who knows - but the timing Vinca Friday #89

How could he not know this would come out?! Cha Friday #90

If true, this is horribly sad and disturbing karin_sj Friday #97

Where is Roger Stone? The Wizard Friday #102

I hate to say it... DET Friday #103

I really liked Swalwell and was planing on voting for him Lifeafter70 Saturday #118

Interesting timing. Sneederbunk Friday #104

Crap. mzmolly Friday #110

FUCK Faux pas Friday #111

Having worked on Capitol Hill for two House members, it quickly became apparent to me allegorical oracle Saturday #125

All of it or some of it could well be true, valleyrogue Saturday #127

Strange how this all came out right before the primaries. valleyrogue Saturday #126

Is California an open primary state? Will Swalwell name still be on the ballot? Emile Saturday #130

Yes and yes MichMan Saturday #137

How Very Disappointing! MineralMan Saturday #131

It could also be a gambit to undermine women's claims of sexual abuse jmbar2 Saturday #133

These allegations are certainly troubling and they're not going to just go away. Jedi Guy Saturday #143

Wow! Right in the middle of a heated campaign.... Mysterian Saturday #144

"while she was drunk" "after a night of heavy drinking" Nixie Sunday #146