The "Fiscal Cliff" vote is over, did we cut Social Security?

[stupidicus]

28. well, this is the defense of and for his expressed willingness to cut it from

those who either lack the mental acuity required to resolve his actually doing so and a willingness to do so into the two separate and distinct things they are, or lacking the intellectual honesty to concede that they are.

The whole idea you see, is to blunt the criticism of his having offered that particular sacrificial lamb and what it says about his status or position on the ideological spectrum, by claiming that it is unreasonable and irrational to take him at his word. Apparently only the "loony left" does that. This dishonesty is of course understandable, as well as the use of the Lucy analogy, "N" dimensional chess, etc, -- they don't want our allegedly "liberal" president having his legacy tarnished even by the willingness to cut SS.

So, in typical impotent fashion, they attack the messengers in lieu of any defense of or for the message BHO himself delivered, and find themselves remaining wholly incapable of presenting cause beyond stupid analogies as to why fears and concerns that SS may be touched by this president are unreasonable and irrational.

That's been the case with every one of them I've locked horns with over the last few months on the issue. There's nothing irrational or unreasonable about fears or concerns over what he says he'll consider/has offered to do, and their "NUH UH" arguments are worthy of the playground. It's all concerted bluster and BS on their part intended to obscure the fact that they have no way of hiding the fact that he put SS on the chopping block, and all these posts like this one are merely dishonest dodges and an effort to change the subject to those like you and I.

It makes dishonest weaklings of them all imo.

Wow, imagine that -- we're loons for taking BHO literally and at his word. Apparently we must be "loony lefties" for not calling him a liar instead. By their standard, and what they're really arguing for, is that this irrational and unreasonable threat to SS some of us feel is really just a "the ends justify the means" type lie Saint Raygun honed into an artform. In other words, they want us to accept being lied to, and to figure out when we are and aren't being lied to.