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JayhawkSD

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15. Yes, you have it wrong. You are not comparing apples to apples.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

Both Tammy Teacher and Bobby Banker are paying 6.2% of their income into a trust fund for retirement. Both had a temporary hiatus on almost 1/3 of that contribution, which is now ending. In neither case will that affect their retirement, because the government made the amount they did not pay. Bobby Banker pays more in because he has a higher income. No, he doesn't pay on the entirety of his income because, as has been pointed out, he receives retirement funding based on what he paid in and there is a cap on the benefits he can receive. The reason Babby Banker doesn't pay in based on the entirety of his income is that his payments into the system would be excessivebecause of that benefits cap. So, although the tax appears regressive, it is actually not. The benefits received are proportional to the amount paid in.

Tammy Teacher's taxes are not going to go up at all. They are completely unaffected by this deal. As mentioned arlier, the forgiveness she had earlier on paying into her retirement does end, but the amount she pays for the operation of her nation's government is unchanged.

Bobby Banker's taxes will increase on $100,000 of his income. The forgiveness he had earlier on paying into his retirement ends, and the amount he pays for the operation of his nation's government will increase.

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Fiscal Cliff Math: am I doing this right? [View all] Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 OP
Looks right to me...but remember... rgbecker Jan 2013 #1
To get some perspective, draw a number line ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #2
Color me disappointed as well. reformist2 Jan 2013 #3
The rich and those who support them will think that is unfair liberal N proud Jan 2013 #4
Nope... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #5
FICA is not regressive, it vests at differing rates based on inputs. Sirveri Jan 2013 #29
That is right if you quoted net income, not gross, and just the earned income. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #6
It's 3D chess, only one guy is helping the other guy collect all the pieces Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #7
That is just shared sacrifice, the chess master is sharing the pieces he has sacrificed Dragonfli Jan 2013 #11
It's a 4.6% increase for the banker, fwiw. jpljr77 Jan 2013 #8
About that temporary tax cut... Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 #13
*crickets* SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #19
interesting and totally believable No Compromise Jan 2013 #22
Making work pay was one of them. Sirveri Jan 2013 #30
Exactly as predicted and the likely result of his con-game as well. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #31
Iow, the teacher just goes back to what she was paying before the tax sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #24
Total Federal taxes owed = 24.71% vs 34.13% Make7 Jan 2013 #9
it's a good start bigtree Jan 2013 #10
No you got this right. TXDem72 Jan 2013 #12
can't have it all think_critically Jan 2013 #14
Really? jerfro Jan 2013 #28
Yes, you have it wrong. You are not comparing apples to apples. JayhawkSD Jan 2013 #15
Seriously, sometimes you just have to lay it out in these terms. mother earth Jan 2013 #16
Apples and Oranges. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #17
Oh really? Then what is their Constitutional authority .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #23
FICA is a tax... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #26
If Bobby Banker maes $500,00/year, SheilaT Jan 2013 #18
You're right, fixed it Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 #21
no you are not hfojvt Jan 2013 #20
If you only look at "earned income" Texano78704 Jan 2013 #25
Social Security is not supposed to be progressive cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #27
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