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pinkstarburst

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28. I would like to see some evidence released

Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:05 PM

Apr 11

If this is true, and it may very well be, they can surely release some text messages or something like that.

My concern is that we not set a precedent that there can be an accusation made and BOOM, the candidate drops out. Let's think this through. Right now it's our frontrunner for the governor of California. What happens 6 months from now when we only have one dem candidate in the running for CA governor (that could easily happen!) and there's mysteriously a round of accusations that happen right before voting starts, accusing our candidate. Do they drop out? Do we rush to drop support?

What happens when republicans learn from how quickly we will burn someone with zero evidence (it hasn't even been 24 hours) and decide this would be a cool trick to pull in our 2028 primary, taking out our frontrunner for president? They control most of the media now, and the billionaires are on their side, too. What happens when after they take out our frontrunner, and we get a nominee no one is excited about, they wait until October and release "damning information" about our nominee, that later turns out to be untrue, but it takes months to figure that out, and we are so quick to condemn that we've already lost?

I think we need to be careful, especially given what happened with Franken, not to get ahead of ourselves. I would like to see evidence.

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Is Swalwell being rat fucked? (Poll) [View all] orangecrush Apr 11 OP

Food for thought... ultralite001 Apr 11 #1

Option 5: Did he ratfuck himself? leftstreet Apr 11 #2

If he and his wife made nice after whatever it was he did Attilatheblond Apr 11 #7

He's still in the House. Wiz Imp Apr 11 #52

Short timer, so not really still in Attilatheblond Apr 11 #54

Huh? Every member of the House is only currently serving through the end of the year. Wiz Imp Sunday #72

He's not every member of the house. He's a guy who screwed up big time and will be out of politics altogether soon. Attilatheblond Sunday #78

Sheesh. And until then, he is still a member of the House of Representatives. Wiz Imp Sunday #82

You seem to be shadow boxing for no particular reason. I don't disagree that he is still in the House but he's DONE Attilatheblond Sunday #84

Wow. You started by saying Wiz Imp Sunday #85

No, this goes to judgement, which he showed very little of!! He put himself in the position to be blackmailed, Pisces Apr 11 #57

Option 6: When this shit comes up in the middle of a campaign, we should be very skeptical Bluetus Apr 11 #9

"this shit." You mean like rape? leftstreet Apr 11 #10

No. I mean like character assassination Bluetus Apr 11 #14

"This is obviously not about a rape." I...would not say that's obvious. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #16

I understand there are reasons people don't like to speak up. Bluetus Apr 11 #29

"They have had nine years to speak up and they chose this particular moment to bring a charge?" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #34

You are seriously asking a question regarding why sexual assault is (commonly/frequently) not reported? stopdiggin Apr 11 #19

Don't be a reactionary, putting words in my mouth. Bluetus Apr 11 #30

At least one of the alleged assaults was in 2024. nt pnwmom Apr 11 #44

He is being investigated by the Manhattan District Attorney's office DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 #50

Sigh n/t leftstreet Apr 11 #20

He allegedly sent unsolicited dick picks DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 #39

If true, that should be disqualifying Bluetus Apr 11 #46

Snapchat deletes messages so no EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #60

There are some related facts that appear to have been corroborated. pnwmom Apr 11 #43

Jean Carroll didn't bring up her being assaulted until years lster onenote Apr 11 #47

And that weighed heavily against her charges Bluetus Apr 11 #48

Christine Blasey Ford tulipsandroses Apr 11 #32

Not enough info MustLoveBeagles Apr 11 #3

Yeah. What a coincidence!! FoxNewsSucks Apr 11 #6

Maybe his ego has been getting the best of him. n/t pnwmom Sunday #63

That's possible MustLoveBeagles Sunday #67

Not enough VERIFIED info yet. FoxNewsSucks Apr 11 #4

Read more if you want to see more corroboration. It's out there. pnwmom Sunday #66

Mr Swalwell knows what he did and didn't do mike_c Apr 11 #5

I have no idea PATRICK Apr 11 #8

Can't be sure. I always take such allegations seriously mvd Apr 11 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 11 #12

I am suspicious of the timing mcar Apr 11 #13

"The timing seems suspicious" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #15

Excellent point SocialDemocrat61 Apr 11 #17

I'm leaning to No. But not enough information yet. RandomNumbers Apr 11 #18

there are people with inside knowledge (within his own campaign?) that appear to be stopdiggin Apr 11 #22

Hey DU peeps who are smarter than me re the internets. I caught a brief statement supposedly made by Roger Stone Ninga Apr 11 #21

Because journalists were reporting out the allegations. It takes weeks to months to nail a story like this down, and it WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #23

Ok I understand. Appreciate your response. I still Ninga Apr 11 #26

better now than after the primary WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #27

It was being posted by people on Instagram for a prolonged period EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #61

Roger Stone also seems to have "Democratic insider info". LeftInTX Sunday #80

I don't know but I do think the response should be to look into JI7 Apr 11 #24

You need an option for "He should drop out of the Governor's race, but stay in his Congressional seat until... LudwigPastorius Apr 11 #25

I would like to see some evidence released pinkstarburst Apr 11 #28

Absofuckingloutely! He was very vocal against slob post 1/6 & beyond. SheltieLover Apr 11 #31

Throw him off the bus. Let his next potential employer figure it out. hunter Apr 11 #33

Im just curious on those believing this is a set up - have you read the SF Cheonicle and/or CNN reporting Nanjeanne Apr 11 #35

Swalwell has a sterling record. Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #36

Does he? Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #42

He did that in the open. Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #45

1.) Al Franken Was About A Photo. 2.) Eric's Defense Is 2-Fold:..... ColoringFool Apr 11 #37

You are wrong about Franken 8 different women accused him EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall Sunday #70

Serious allegations. Skepticism warranted. Bobstandard Apr 11 #38

I want to hear the allegations made under oath. orangecrush Apr 11 #59

The timing makes me suspicious Orangenero Apr 11 #40

To believe this is ratfuckery is to suspend reality Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #41

Fiendish Thingy mr715 Apr 11 #51

Tom Steyer is a billionaire TexasBushwhacker Apr 11 #53

I'm not pointing fingers Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #56

If it's not ratfucking, the accusers should go to the authorities rather than the media. W_HAMILTON Apr 11 #49

Double standard? onenote Apr 11 #55

It's not a double standard. Then statute of limitations had expired and it was pre-Me Too. W_HAMILTON Apr 11 #58

Some of the SOL's are only 5 years, and it takes victims time to emotionally process these things. pnwmom Sunday #65

Except they've gone to CNN -- surely they can go to the police. W_HAMILTON Sunday #73

They did go to the police DemocratSinceBirth Sunday #79

Not true. He opened up the investigation based on the news reports. W_HAMILTON Monday #88

It sounds like you believe that staying silent or going to the police are the only two options for someone who's WhiskeyGrinder Monday #90

I believe that if you are willing to tell your story to the media about your alleged sexual assault... W_HAMILTON Monday #93

. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #96

Easy for a man to say. nt pnwmom Sunday #64

It ain't just men asking why they can go to CNN but not the police. W_HAMILTON Sunday #74

The patriarchy harms everyone EdmondDantes_ Sunday #81

They didn't go to CNN. CNN went to them. And Manhattan prosecutors pnwmom Sunday #86

Because of the reporting -- not because the accusers went to them. W_HAMILTON Monday #89

You are assuming that, but it's not being reported when or in response to what pnwmom Monday #92

You can tell from the comments made when the investigation was opened. W_HAMILTON Monday #94

That's what you gleaned from the comments, but I didn't. And it really doesn't matter. pnwmom Monday #98

The original victim didn't go to authorities because she didn't think they'd believe her. And the media came to her. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #71

Well, it sure looks like lots believe her snd support her, so now she should go to the police. W_HAMILTON Sunday #75

The Manhattan DA has opened an investigation, so she may have. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #76

No, the investigation was opened because of the reporting, hence why they are asking people to come forward. W_HAMILTON Monday #91

. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #95

Yes, but these accusers did come forward. W_HAMILTON Monday #97

damn victims Cirsium Sunday #77

The Manhattan prosecutors office IS investigating. nt pnwmom Sunday #87

I don't know. hamsterjill Sunday #68

I think it's to distract from the Melania thing. LeftInTX Sunday #69

He's toast. underpants Sunday #83

Yup orangecrush Tuesday #100

With the amount of money available for campaigns, lees1975 Tuesday #99

I love how women are not to be believed. Jirel Tuesday #101