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EdmondDantes_

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23. Why isn't the responsibility on the man who had 8 accusers?

Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:31 PM

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Several of the victims told people at the time what happened. At least one was a Democratic staffer. Franken apologized for giving women reason to doubt him. Why are we still blaming Gillibrand or that?

If you believe all 8 victims are lying, blame them. If you believe the victims blame Franken. Those are the only two real options and one of them requires a substantial rejection of statistics on false allegations to believe.

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Kirsten Gillibrand [View all] milestogo Yesterday OP

Absolutely! The Swalwell issue stinks of repuke rat fuckery. SheltieLover Yesterday #1

Even Al called for a Senate Ethics committee ivestigation. ProudMNDemocrat Yesterday #2

Tony dropped out. There is talk of kicking him out of congress. LeftInTX Yesterday #24

The 'allegations" against Franken were nothing compared to Swalwell. What Gillebrand and others Nanjeanne Yesterday #3

The allegations are serious. milestogo Yesterday #8

The "allegations against Franken were nothing, period. ananda Yesterday #18

False. Why do Franken defenders continue to say that? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #19

Read this, and please be honest about it. Ocelot II Yesterday #28

I've read it in the past. It didn't change anything for me EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #39

Mob mentality Bluetus 23 hrs ago #45

One of the alleged incidents occurred in 2024, but of course all of the accusations Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #46

Would you acknowledge any of these 4 things? Bluetus 22 hrs ago #53

Any of those things are possible, which is why a thorough investigation is needed. Ocelot II 22 hrs ago #54

These things don't get better with time, though... OhioBack2Blue 8 hrs ago #59

Thank you for this! niyad 20 hrs ago #56

Franken Cirsium Yesterday #29

I mostly agree with you but not entirely jfz9580m 22 hrs ago #50

Yes exactly. Nanjeanne Yesterday #31

Don't forget Roger Stone. vanlassie 8 hrs ago #60

She was one of many SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #4

Who was one of many what? Amaryllis Yesterday #9

39 Senators SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #11

Thank you! Amaryllis Yesterday #12

They just KNEW if they played nice and canned Franken then Republicans Bengus81 Yesterday #13

You speak of playing nice, footballs. Games, teams, and jerseys. R vs. B Maru Kitteh Yesterday #37

And since then many of them have said they regretted it. Ocelot II Yesterday #30

So? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32

How do you know the other 32 didn't also regret it? Ocelot II Yesterday #33

I don't SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #34

no reason to think that they don't, either Skittles Yesterday #43

Is there evidence SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #47

I don't see Chuck Schumer on this list - WTF? FakeNoose Yesterday #14

Schumer probably directed things SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #22

SHE LED THE WAY Skittles Yesterday #17

same here. nt orleans Yesterday #20

By less than 5 minutes SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #21

editing Skittles Yesterday #25

You are entitled to your opinion SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #27

aren't they all? Skittles Yesterday #36

Some are more supported by facts than others. EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #40

I never said she was alone, I said she LED THE WAY Skittles Yesterday #41

No its not SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #48

well like you said THAT'S YOUR OPINION Skittles 22 hrs ago #51

No. SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #52

Again by a handful of minutes and it was organized within the party EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #61

I'd rather have Tina Smith, thanks. She's been fantastic. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #5

No and they won't. Autumn Yesterday #6

Who won't what ? Indefinite pronouns. Cant tell what your references refer to. Amaryllis Yesterday #10

+1000 aeromanKC Yesterday #7

The whole conservative establishment in the party has to go LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #15

Hear, hear! ZDU Yesterday #26

Good memory! ABC123Easy Yesterday #16

Why isn't the responsibility on the man who had 8 accusers? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #23

Why can't believing them and still not wanting him thrown out be an option? Polybius Yesterday #38

I admit I didn't think anyone would say he groped a bunch of women and it's not a fireable offense as an option EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #42

But he didn't do it on the job, it was alleged to have been years ago Polybius 23 hrs ago #44

One of his accusers SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #49

Thanks for reminding us of something that happened 8 years ago. tinrobot Yesterday #35

I'm with you! Faux pas 20 hrs ago #55

KNR and bookmarking for later. niyad 20 hrs ago #57

she got played. pansypoo53219 8 hrs ago #58

Overdoing the sweetie-pie/tough-guy stuff gulliver 7 hrs ago #62