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MNBrewer

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34. This isn't Schrödinger's cat we're talking about

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:29 AM

Jan 2013

It's not like Social Security wasn't REALLY on the chopping block until and unless the cuts were actually implemented. It was right THERE, in plain view, ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

The President said "as you know, one of the proposals we made was something called Chained CPI, which sounds real technical but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on
Social Security. Highly unpopular among Democrats. Not something supported by AARP. But in pursuit of strengthening Social Security for the long-term I’m willing to make those decisions."

We're supposed to somehow "know" that the offer was a fake, a ruse, disingenuous, untrue? (Some people would call that lying)

How, then, are we to determine when the President is telling us the truth, and when he is being disingenuous (lying)? Are we to rely on our spidey sense? i.e., wishful thinking.

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The "Fiscal Cliff" vote is over, did we cut Social Security? [View all] WonderGrunion Jan 2013 OP

It's not over... kentuck Jan 2013 #1

But did we cut Social Security? WonderGrunion Jan 2013 #2

If the Fiscal Cliff Crisis ended with today's vote, you'd be right. MessiahRp Jan 2013 #3

I see lots of folks posting that they see from 'so many' stuff like 'absolutely double dog' and that Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #6

So when you say 'I heard from many' you really mean 'I am making up shit I never saw and can Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #7

You are kidding. Do you not read DU? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #15

OP can offer up any single quote that says the shit he claims he sees from 'many'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #38

Yes, exactly. No deal has been made, it's only... JackRiddler Jan 2013 #27

Chained CPI customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #4

No. demwing Jan 2013 #5

The fiscal cliff was originally pushed for by Obama as a way of implementing SS reform Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #8

Yep. The MIC developed a PERT Network for cutting plethoro Jan 2013 #24

PERT network? Sounds intriguing Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #42

The prediction that Obama will cut Social Security will pop back up JoePhilly Jan 2013 #9

Never occurred to Joe that the outrage from the actual Left had some effect. Never will. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #11

"Obama is going to cave and cut Social Security!!!!!" JoePhilly Jan 2013 #12

Well cheerleading like a schmuck sure doesn't help. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #17

If you go back over my posts on this topic, you'll find my predicted outcome is JoePhilly Jan 2013 #31

Good post brush Jan 2013 #20

That is exactly what it was. It was the Democrats that understood the threat and who plethoro Jan 2013 #25

The GOP is going to attack again, no matter what happened, its what they do. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #32

White House to libruls. "Fuck Them" (NYT article, 1/2/13) jerseyjack Jan 2013 #10

Or even give the link. How kind of you to save us the time. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #16

Did the debt ceiling get raised? vi5 Jan 2013 #13

That comes in two months...... bowens43 Jan 2013 #14

Never is a very long time MNBrewer Jan 2013 #18

Actually, by letting the payroll tax holiday expire we have strengthened it. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #19

Yes CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #21

So do you mean I can stop calling and writing the WH and my reps about it now? forestpath Jan 2013 #22

well, this is the defense of and for his expressed willingness to cut it from stupidicus Jan 2013 #28

Yep. Especially because, when Obama does put it back on the table, they will forestpath Jan 2013 #35

No, folks should continue to do that. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #33

Why? Because it bugs you? What difference does that make? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #39

And during that DADT effort ... there was a loud group on DU claiming JoePhilly Jan 2013 #40

WTF!!! Obama is the one that put SS on the table. The Democrats in Congress took it away. Dawgs Jan 2013 #23

Is it so hard for people to actually think that the WH and Congress(dem side) might actually Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2013 #29

This isn't Schrödinger's cat we're talking about MNBrewer Jan 2013 #34

No. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #26

No, but that doesn't stop the ODSers to find something else to go after the Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #30

Our President just cleaned the Republicans clock CentristLiberal Jan 2013 #36

As everywhere, those who are most upset post the most and loudest. uppityperson Jan 2013 #37

it's a mistake to focus so much on personality Enrique Jan 2013 #41

No, Obama did however put it on the table Autumn Jan 2013 #43

+1 forestpath Jan 2013 #44

no "all" we did was create permanent tax cuts for the rich hfojvt Jan 2013 #45