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hfojvt

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20. no you are not
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jan 2013

it is better to look at dollar figures than as percentages.

Tammy's taxes are going up by $1,000

Bobby's taxes are going up by $6,000 - $2,000 in payroll taxes and $4,000 in income taxes.

$6,000 is greater than $1,000.

Percentages are less relevant than actual numbers.

Bush always wanted to use percentages so he could give a $6,000 tax cut to Bobby and $1,000 to Tammy and then say "see? My plan favors people like Tammy, look at the percentages."

But the tax CUT that Obama calls a "middle class" tax cut, also favors Bobby far more than it favors Tammy. Thanks to Obama's awesome negotiating, Tammy gets to keep her Bush tax cut of $1,500 and Bobby gets to keep a Bush tax cut of perhaps $8,000, and, once again $8,000 is much greater than $1,500.

But hey, according to Obama, Bobby is practically part of the middle class anyway, so hurrah for middle class tax cuts that favor him.

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Fiscal Cliff Math: am I doing this right? [View all] Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 OP
Looks right to me...but remember... rgbecker Jan 2013 #1
To get some perspective, draw a number line ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #2
Color me disappointed as well. reformist2 Jan 2013 #3
The rich and those who support them will think that is unfair liberal N proud Jan 2013 #4
Nope... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #5
FICA is not regressive, it vests at differing rates based on inputs. Sirveri Jan 2013 #29
That is right if you quoted net income, not gross, and just the earned income. Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #6
It's 3D chess, only one guy is helping the other guy collect all the pieces Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #7
That is just shared sacrifice, the chess master is sharing the pieces he has sacrificed Dragonfli Jan 2013 #11
It's a 4.6% increase for the banker, fwiw. jpljr77 Jan 2013 #8
About that temporary tax cut... Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 #13
*crickets* SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #19
interesting and totally believable No Compromise Jan 2013 #22
Making work pay was one of them. Sirveri Jan 2013 #30
Exactly as predicted and the likely result of his con-game as well. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #31
Iow, the teacher just goes back to what she was paying before the tax sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #24
Total Federal taxes owed = 24.71% vs 34.13% Make7 Jan 2013 #9
it's a good start bigtree Jan 2013 #10
No you got this right. TXDem72 Jan 2013 #12
can't have it all think_critically Jan 2013 #14
Really? jerfro Jan 2013 #28
Yes, you have it wrong. You are not comparing apples to apples. JayhawkSD Jan 2013 #15
Seriously, sometimes you just have to lay it out in these terms. mother earth Jan 2013 #16
Apples and Oranges. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #17
Oh really? Then what is their Constitutional authority .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #23
FICA is a tax... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #26
If Bobby Banker maes $500,00/year, SheilaT Jan 2013 #18
You're right, fixed it Proud Public Servant Jan 2013 #21
no you are not hfojvt Jan 2013 #20
If you only look at "earned income" Texano78704 Jan 2013 #25
Social Security is not supposed to be progressive cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #27
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