Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Martin Eden

(15,730 posts)
54. So we go relentless, pulling no punches
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:39 PM
Apr 12

Call a liar a liar, a criminal a criminal, and a traitor a traitor. Do you honestly think saying fucking liar, fucking criminal, and fucking traitor will strengthen our argument among people who don't already agree with us?

It won't. It will exonerate Trump for his use of the F-bomb, and convince many folks on the fence that we are no better.

It may provide some temporary satisfaction in venting our rage, but it will not help one bit in rallying more people to the cause of fighting fascism.

All it will do is lower the national discourse, which is probably what our enemies want.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Didn't the NYT actually have the nerve to write some scolding story senseandsensibility Apr 12 #1
They are the fucking worst PCIntern Apr 12 #2
Officious prick you say? BattleRow Apr 12 #12
Fuck them. paleotn Apr 12 #21
why not add the word FUCK to the dictionary? CountAllVotes Apr 12 #3
Your President thinks so... PCIntern Apr 12 #5
He makes me so sick! CountAllVotes Apr 12 #9
Oh Jesus Fucking Christ... mr715 Apr 12 #7
Make that A-O-Fuckin'-K! calimary Apr 12 #27
Last I looked "fuck" was in all of the high end dictionaries... Wounded Bear Apr 12 #28
I think it's been okay for ages, actually... buzzycrumbhunger Apr 12 #47
Can't help but use it for the destruction this maniac is doing to all of us vapor2 Apr 12 #50
Fuck is in many dictionaries radical noodle Apr 12 #52
I play a word game and I find it so annoying that naughty words don't count. travelingthrulife Monday #61
Been using that and its variations for years, lol. mwmisses4289 Monday #64
I Hear You, I Agree With Your Stance, But Alas, It IS In The Dictionary..... ColoringFool Monday #77
I'm pretty sure it's been in the dictionary for a while, lol. ShazzieB Monday #78
;-{).... Goonch Apr 12 #4
Dear PCIntern, it's Sunday! usonian Apr 12 #6
A variant: SCantiGOP Monday #57
I learned from my grandmother. (Slightly off-topic) usonian Monday #60
Grammar rules are made to be broken! mwmisses4289 Monday #65
Absolutely right SCantiGOP Monday #66
That's easy for you to say! usonian Monday #72
It's easier than saying than saying this: mwmisses4289 Monday #79
I've said it many times regarding profanity Skittles Apr 12 #8
I'm long past finding the "traditional" "swear words" offensive. MLWR Apr 12 #15
? Skittles Apr 12 #35
This. 1000% paleotn Apr 12 #22
It's lost its shock value. Boomerproud Apr 12 #10
It does not shock me CountAllVotes Apr 12 #11
I so agree. efhmc Apr 12 #14
It Works for Trump Because Lowered Standards Give Him More Running Room WizumbODaSage Apr 12 #16
I am able to watch MSNBC online CountAllVotes Apr 12 #17
Wow! That works great for me on my phone. I haven't tried it on my tablet yet. Thank you so much! liberalla Apr 12 #40
I use it all of the time CountAllVotes Apr 12 #48
You may find it inappropriate as I'm sure many do but it does not mean she is poorly educated. chowder66 Apr 12 #18
That is fucking cool. mr715 Apr 12 #45
lol chowder66 Apr 12 #49
Oh horse shit. paleotn Apr 12 #23
Educated as fuck! mr715 Apr 12 #46
Utter Nonsense Betty Boom Apr 12 #42
The unread can't use profanity to effect. enigmania Monday #71
It used to be a strong word. In these times, I find that it is no longer strong enough. Marie Marie Monday #75
Yes, used too much it is rather boring. mwmisses4289 Monday #67
Dick Cheney, 2004 vanamonde Apr 12 #13
Doesn't matter popsdenver Apr 12 #19
Fuckin' Ay Skippy! BidenRocks Apr 12 #20
The best insults and swear words aren't in the English/US language . . . Aussie105 Apr 12 #24
It's a word. Like any other word. paleotn Apr 12 #25
Kill the tone argument. Iggo Apr 12 #26
Spanish cuss words are the best! EndlessMaze Apr 12 #29
I've noticed NPR not being so dreadfully delight for the last few months underpants Apr 12 #30
Bring Sen. Mazie Hirono BaronChocula Apr 12 #31
You said it, brother. Joinfortmill Apr 12 #32
Netanyahu has hurt the USA as well, Bibi is helping TSF to destroy the U.S.. nt Exp Apr 12 #33
Finally Blue_Roses Apr 12 #34
Obama was castigated for using the phrase "we kicked his ass." Orrex Apr 12 #36
Good to know.. TY! Cha Apr 12 #37
I grew up on Frank Zappa, the Fuggs , Captain Beefart... BurnDoubt Apr 12 #38
I think Trump was justly criticized for dropping the F-bomb Martin Eden Apr 12 #39
Yes:when they go low, we go high, right??? PCIntern Apr 12 #43
So we go relentless, pulling no punches Martin Eden Apr 12 #54
The national discourse cannot be lowered PCIntern Monday #55
It would certainly get lower if Democrats act like Trump Martin Eden Monday #56
No one is advocating the abrogation of principle. PCIntern Monday #58
Profanity from Democratic leaders is being advocated in this thread Martin Eden Monday #62
I agree. Be direct, but not fucking direct, dipshit! NoSheep Monday #70
I think others curse besides and beypnd Mr trump Torchlight Apr 12 #44
If I remember correctly... oldsoldierfadingfast Apr 12 #41
There's No "Fuck" in Broccoli!! The Roux Comes First Apr 12 #51
Hold my beer... JoseBalow Monday #63
Rec'd for the 'Rocky III' reference.... Jack Valentino Apr 12 #53
So I have a story for you: PCIntern Monday #68
Just remember: Water seeks its own level. phxjurist Monday #59
Fuck is a very versatile word. patphil Monday #69
Nicely done PCIntern jfz9580m Monday #73
Profanity is a linguistic crutch used by unintelligent fucking assholes. Wait a minute.... Gary 50 Monday #74
I hadn''t turned on MSNBC in forever, but wanted to see Budapest celebrate... & I not only heard Alex Wagner say "fuck," deurbano Monday #76
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Well the gloves are off a...»Reply #54