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Jirel

(2,372 posts)
101. I love how women are not to be believed.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:24 AM
Tuesday

Shame.

If there was nothing to it, if he was being ratfucked, Swallwell had all the opportunities in the world to fight back.

Instead, once again someone who seems just a few hairs’-breadths away from the equivalent of supporting their favorite politician even if he did rape a few women with his best friend who had a whole island for raping women, is casting doubt on whether their favorite politician really did abuse a woman who came forward with a detailed story and evidence.

Being “our guy” is not an excuse to cast doubt when apparently HE isn’t even casting doubt on a pretty long-term abusive situation. He has all the reason and ability to fight it, if the story is false. It could land him with criminal charges, for a start. But he isn’t.

Bringing up Franken doesn’t help the argument. What Franken did was nowhere as serious, and there was no reason for him to lie about it. He didn’t. He had a couple options - stay in politics and let the voters decided if it was a big deal, or bow out because, if nothing else, it was not conduct many felt was befitting a man in high office. He chose how he chose. He was not in danger of criminal charges, etc.

We do not do ourselves any favors when we try to protect our politicians from accusations of misconduct and keep them on because… why? The other side has no shame? We want to assume women lie, especially when they come forward with stories that will tank their own careers? We get frustrated with the inconvenience losing a “good” candidate and having to work harder to bring us someone else who should be vetted even harder?

We need to stop making excuses or raising doubts to “save” politicians who are credibly accused. If the same level of evidence was raised with regard to abusing an elder family member or their child, the party would instantly turn against them. But a woman? “Oh, you know, women lie…”

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Food for thought... ultralite001 Apr 11 #1
Option 5: Did he ratfuck himself? leftstreet Apr 11 #2
If he and his wife made nice after whatever it was he did Attilatheblond Apr 11 #7
He's still in the House. Wiz Imp Apr 11 #52
Short timer, so not really still in Attilatheblond Apr 11 #54
Huh? Every member of the House is only currently serving through the end of the year. Wiz Imp Apr 12 #72
He's not every member of the house. He's a guy who screwed up big time and will be out of politics altogether soon. Attilatheblond Apr 12 #78
Sheesh. And until then, he is still a member of the House of Representatives. Wiz Imp Apr 12 #82
You seem to be shadow boxing for no particular reason. I don't disagree that he is still in the House but he's DONE Attilatheblond Apr 12 #84
Wow. You started by saying Wiz Imp Apr 12 #85
No, this goes to judgement, which he showed very little of!! He put himself in the position to be blackmailed, Pisces Apr 11 #57
Option 6: When this shit comes up in the middle of a campaign, we should be very skeptical Bluetus Apr 11 #9
"this shit." You mean like rape? leftstreet Apr 11 #10
No. I mean like character assassination Bluetus Apr 11 #14
"This is obviously not about a rape." I...would not say that's obvious. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #16
I understand there are reasons people don't like to speak up. Bluetus Apr 11 #29
"They have had nine years to speak up and they chose this particular moment to bring a charge?" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #34
You are seriously asking a question regarding why sexual assault is (commonly/frequently) not reported? stopdiggin Apr 11 #19
Don't be a reactionary, putting words in my mouth. Bluetus Apr 11 #30
At least one of the alleged assaults was in 2024. nt pnwmom Apr 11 #44
He is being investigated by the Manhattan District Attorney's office DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 #50
Sigh n/t leftstreet Apr 11 #20
He allegedly sent unsolicited dick picks DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 #39
If true, that should be disqualifying Bluetus Apr 11 #46
Snapchat deletes messages so no EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #60
There are some related facts that appear to have been corroborated. pnwmom Apr 11 #43
Jean Carroll didn't bring up her being assaulted until years lster onenote Apr 11 #47
And that weighed heavily against her charges Bluetus Apr 11 #48
Christine Blasey Ford tulipsandroses Apr 11 #32
Not enough info MustLoveBeagles Apr 11 #3
Yeah. What a coincidence!! FoxNewsSucks Apr 11 #6
Maybe his ego has been getting the best of him. n/t pnwmom Apr 12 #63
That's possible MustLoveBeagles Apr 12 #67
Not enough VERIFIED info yet. FoxNewsSucks Apr 11 #4
Read more if you want to see more corroboration. It's out there. pnwmom Apr 12 #66
Mr Swalwell knows what he did and didn't do mike_c Apr 11 #5
I have no idea PATRICK Apr 11 #8
Can't be sure. I always take such allegations seriously mvd Apr 11 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 11 #12
I am suspicious of the timing mcar Apr 11 #13
"The timing seems suspicious" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #15
Excellent point SocialDemocrat61 Apr 11 #17
I'm leaning to No. But not enough information yet. RandomNumbers Apr 11 #18
there are people with inside knowledge (within his own campaign?) that appear to be stopdiggin Apr 11 #22
Hey DU peeps who are smarter than me re the internets. I caught a brief statement supposedly made by Roger Stone Ninga Apr 11 #21
Because journalists were reporting out the allegations. It takes weeks to months to nail a story like this down, and it WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #23
Ok I understand. Appreciate your response. I still Ninga Apr 11 #26
better now than after the primary WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #27
It was being posted by people on Instagram for a prolonged period EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #61
Roger Stone also seems to have "Democratic insider info". LeftInTX Apr 12 #80
I don't know but I do think the response should be to look into JI7 Apr 11 #24
You need an option for "He should drop out of the Governor's race, but stay in his Congressional seat until... LudwigPastorius Apr 11 #25
I would like to see some evidence released pinkstarburst Apr 11 #28
Absofuckingloutely! He was very vocal against slob post 1/6 & beyond. SheltieLover Apr 11 #31
Throw him off the bus. Let his next potential employer figure it out. hunter Apr 11 #33
Im just curious on those believing this is a set up - have you read the SF Cheonicle and/or CNN reporting Nanjeanne Apr 11 #35
Swalwell has a sterling record. Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #36
Does he? Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #42
He did that in the open. Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #45
1.) Al Franken Was About A Photo. 2.) Eric's Defense Is 2-Fold:..... ColoringFool Apr 11 #37
You are wrong about Franken 8 different women accused him EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall Apr 12 #70
Serious allegations. Skepticism warranted. Bobstandard Apr 11 #38
I want to hear the allegations made under oath. orangecrush Apr 11 #59
The timing makes me suspicious Orangenero Apr 11 #40
To believe this is ratfuckery is to suspend reality Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #41
Fiendish Thingy mr715 Apr 11 #51
Tom Steyer is a billionaire TexasBushwhacker Apr 11 #53
I'm not pointing fingers Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #56
If it's not ratfucking, the accusers should go to the authorities rather than the media. W_HAMILTON Apr 11 #49
Double standard? onenote Apr 11 #55
It's not a double standard. Then statute of limitations had expired and it was pre-Me Too. W_HAMILTON Apr 11 #58
Some of the SOL's are only 5 years, and it takes victims time to emotionally process these things. pnwmom Apr 12 #65
Except they've gone to CNN -- surely they can go to the police. W_HAMILTON Apr 12 #73
They did go to the police DemocratSinceBirth Apr 12 #79
Not true. He opened up the investigation based on the news reports. W_HAMILTON Monday #88
It sounds like you believe that staying silent or going to the police are the only two options for someone who's WhiskeyGrinder Monday #90
I believe that if you are willing to tell your story to the media about your alleged sexual assault... W_HAMILTON Monday #93
. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #96
Easy for a man to say. nt pnwmom Apr 12 #64
It ain't just men asking why they can go to CNN but not the police. W_HAMILTON Apr 12 #74
The patriarchy harms everyone EdmondDantes_ Apr 12 #81
They didn't go to CNN. CNN went to them. And Manhattan prosecutors pnwmom Apr 12 #86
Because of the reporting -- not because the accusers went to them. W_HAMILTON Monday #89
You are assuming that, but it's not being reported when or in response to what pnwmom Monday #92
You can tell from the comments made when the investigation was opened. W_HAMILTON Monday #94
That's what you gleaned from the comments, but I didn't. And it really doesn't matter. pnwmom Monday #98
The original victim didn't go to authorities because she didn't think they'd believe her. And the media came to her. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 12 #71
Well, it sure looks like lots believe her snd support her, so now she should go to the police. W_HAMILTON Apr 12 #75
The Manhattan DA has opened an investigation, so she may have. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 12 #76
No, the investigation was opened because of the reporting, hence why they are asking people to come forward. W_HAMILTON Monday #91
. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #95
Yes, but these accusers did come forward. W_HAMILTON Monday #97
damn victims Cirsium Apr 12 #77
The Manhattan prosecutors office IS investigating. nt pnwmom Apr 12 #87
I don't know. hamsterjill Apr 12 #68
I think it's to distract from the Melania thing. LeftInTX Apr 12 #69
He's toast. underpants Apr 12 #83
Yup orangecrush Tuesday #100
With the amount of money available for campaigns, lees1975 Tuesday #99
I love how women are not to be believed. Jirel Tuesday #101
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