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chowder66

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5. Paranoia can be part of narcissistic collapse
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 02:09 PM
Apr 15

Surveillance

When a person high in covert narcissistic traits enters collapse, their internal world shifts from quiet superiority to distrust, abandonment terror, and desperation to feel relevant.2,3 They can collapse inward into a state of paranoia, hypervigilance, and catastrophic fear of losing their primary source of validation, triggering fears of being forgotten. This free-fall can produce a sudden switch from avoidant behavior to a pattern of compulsive behavior.

The same person who once withdrew, stonewalled, or acted passive-aggressively may now shift into obsessively thinking about their lost "supply" and covertly monitoring them with late‑night emails, “baiting” and triangulation attempts, mysterious burner phone calls, or “accidental” attempts to bump into them when running errands or out with friends. These behaviors are designed to regain narrative control and emotional dominance, not emotional connection. It is important to recognize that their obsessiveness is not about love, closure, or providing an apology, but possessiveness, sadistic intensity, and a compulsion to reclaim what they have lost.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-ptsd/202512/covert-narcissism-collapse-and-the-hidden-signs

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he seems to be hearing voices as well rampartd Apr 15 #1
He had so much money all his life and he knows he doesn't deserve it Walleye Apr 15 #2
I think there's more to his behavior than that. wnylib Apr 15 #4
If he were not powerful and wealthy he would have been sitting in prison a long time ago. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #39
Oh come on. DJT is just an a--hole. Jacson6 Apr 15 #3
True dat but, Disaffected Apr 15 #13
Paranoia can be part of narcissistic collapse chowder66 Apr 15 #5
+1 leftstreet Apr 15 #7
Thanks. That sheds light on Trump's intensified focus on enemies. wnylib Apr 15 #8
He's shown passive-aggressive behaviors. chowder66 Apr 15 #14
plus malaise Apr 15 #6
I think he is psychotic now, perhaps BiPolar psychosis. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #9
Thanks for your perspective as a professional in the field. wnylib Apr 15 #15
Yes you were close! And can the pertinent symptoms and presentation. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #17
Is borderline personality mr715 Apr 15 #20
Recent research shows BPD is evenly disturbed among males and females. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #21
You may be right. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #24
Trump is pathology bingo. mr715 Apr 16 #32
You could teach an entire Abnormal Psych class just based on his pathology. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #36
Interdisciplinary Seminar... mr715 Apr 16 #37
Pathological Narcissists are Psychotic DenaliDemocrat Apr 16 #34
This is not exactly true. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #35
I have lived with two clinically diagnosed DenaliDemocrat Apr 16 #40
Yes but they different diagnostic categories. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #41
I would argue with any psychologist DenaliDemocrat Apr 16 #42
Psychopath - Dark Triad FalloutShelter Apr 15 #10
Yes this is his profile blubunyip Apr 15 #22
Victim playing has been republican strategy... lame54 Apr 15 #11
He's a life-long substance abuser. GoCubsGo Apr 15 #12
I had a roommate/good friend drmeow Apr 15 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Apr 15 #18
He isn't schizophrenic. mr715 Apr 15 #19
I think he is so defensive because, at some unacknowledged level... 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #23
I lived with two diagnosed narcissists DenaliDemocrat Apr 16 #25
Psychopaths* experience psychosis like those with schizophrenia. littlemissmartypants Apr 16 #26
I say no. littlemissmartypants Apr 16 #27
A lifelong psychopath who's now suffering from advanced dementia. sop Apr 16 #28
Narcissism, control freak, with a criminal mind. Passages Apr 16 #29
In my opinion, just severe narcissism, ignorance ecstatic Apr 16 #30
They're not mutually exclusive Jilly_in_VA Apr 16 #31
narcissistic sociopath SocialDemocrat61 Apr 16 #33
he's a psychopath... agingdem Apr 16 #38
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