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pat_k

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38. Absolutely! Additional considerations
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:02 PM
Yesterday

I think that in most countries with a universal healthcare system physician education is heavily, and sometimes entirely subsidized, as a public investment. Becoming a doctor, surgeon, or other specialist does not require massive debt or family money.

In universal healthcare systems, you don't generally have the sort of high-cost medical malpractice insurance we have here. Other models, such a government-backed indemnity system or "no fault" type system increases the portion of earnings the physician actually keeps.

Salaries sure look good to me, particularly when you get to start your career without massive debt, and don't have to worry about managing billing and other administrative costs associated with practices and systems here. Here's a comparison from Physicians Weekly:
https://www.physiciansweekly.com/post/how-do-us-physician-salaries-compare-with-those-abroad

All-in-all, physicians in universal health care systems appear to be highly respected people who make a very, very good living without many of the stresses and headaches the practice of medicine involves here.

Undoubtedly, they have different headaches, but looks to me like they are very well-compensated for the job and lengthy investment of time in training.




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Huh. So... he's... delivering on promises? mr715 Yesterday #1
Promises made promises kept baby! Glaisne 13 hrs ago #48
Non-profit social services. Great. Hope that reaches into healthcare, too. lindysalsagal Yesterday #2
Which doctors would work those jobs ? JI7 Yesterday #4
I think we might be surprised. It has long been contended by Wall Street financiers that PatrickforB Yesterday #6
I agree 100%. Great post. Passages Yesterday #12
But aren't they already having trouble getting doctors to open up in rural JI7 Yesterday #15
Being paid decently is an incentive. Festivito Yesterday #18
Well, Mamdani is in New York City, and the urban areas are generally well supplied with PatrickforB Yesterday #19
Absolutely! Additional considerations pat_k Yesterday #38
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Proprietary studies NJCher 10 hrs ago #53
They'd get paid leftstreet Yesterday #7
Depends on what the salary is, doesn't it? MichMan 10 hrs ago #54
It's not always about the money. Jedi Guy Yesterday #14
I'm sure there might be a few . But being realistic JI7 Yesterday #16
I don't disagree at all. Nonprofits don't always have the resources, unfortunately. Jedi Guy Yesterday #27
That is a long-established model. yardwork Yesterday #11
NYC has a very robust clinic system IbogaProject Yesterday #37
Salaried doctors works well for both Deminpenn 2 hrs ago #57
European countries do this. We're late to the party, here... CTyankee Yesterday #3
We have been late for so long. It's great to see a shift. Passages Yesterday #5
Late To Every Party, From World Wars To Healthcare To.... ColoringFool Yesterday #29
We seem to be late to the party quite often. llmart 11 hrs ago #50
I think some Americans have been awakened when/if they go to a European country (like on a cruise ship) and see what CTyankee 10 hrs ago #52
DURec leftstreet Yesterday #8
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