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highplainsdem

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16. The type of AI that caught your wife's cancer early - for which I'm very thankful - is NOT the type of AI
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 04:03 PM
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trained illegally on data sets of stolen intellectual property. AI bros would like people to confuse hallucinating generative AI models with those other types of AI trained legally on scientific data the AI companies had the right to use, but they aren't the same technology.

I've made it clear again and again here that my objection is to illegally trained generative AI.

Re AI for detecting breast cancer - see this Substack from February of this year by Eric Topol, and see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Topol and https://www.scripps.edu/faculty/topol/ for his background.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-all-mammograms-should-incorporate

The models that led to currently approved or cleared mammography AI tools are all derived without generative AI.


Again, the very unethical AI bros peddling generative AI like to confuse people about this.

No one had to steal the world's writing, visual art and music to train AI. That was not done to help humanity. It was done for the profit of AI companies.

No one had to steal the world's software and coding websites, either, to give us generative AI models that can generate code very rapidly but still hallucinate, producing vast amounts of code faster than humans can check it properly.

The reason all of it was stolen was that generative AI companies hoped that if they just kept dumping more data into their AI models, they might create a truly intelligent machine. They haven't succeeded.

But they did -after stealing what's probably trillions of dollars' worth of intellectual property they had no right to use - succeed in creating AI models that offered an imitation of real knowledge and real creativity. AI models that could be marketed to businesses that wanted to fire workers, and to people without that knowledge and those skills who wanted to pretend they possessed them. Of course the genAI models still hallucinated and their results had to be checked and corrected, and using those AI models dumbed down the users, deskilling people who already had skills and discouraging people who didn't have those skills from bothering to acquire them. But the AI bros didn't care. They had expropriated the world's knowledge and culture in the hope of selling it back to us and making everyone dependent on generative AI and chatbots designed to be addictive.

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