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In reply to the discussion: What is Bad About Obama [View all]highplainsdem
(61,026 posts)78. I suggest you read this Bob Cesca column, which I posted about earlier:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/progressives-obamabots-an_b_1215133.html
Link to my earlier post about this HuffPo column:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002189986
By my accounting, and conservatively speaking (small "c" conservative), there are more than 100 achievements of varying importance ranging from the rescue of the economy from the brink of another Great Depression to the rescue of the American auto industry to the largest middle class tax cut in American history to the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. At the very least, and not insignificantly, President Obama's ideas and political savvy paved the way for African-Americans to finally reach the highest political office in the world. The last segregated office is now multi-racial. This can't be understated or ignored. Furthermore, the president just wrapped his third year in office and, much to the chagrin of the far-right, he has at least another year in which to tackle more items on the to-do list.
These items and dozens more are legitimate and undeniable successes, some of them are historically important and many of them are distinctly liberal. Some of them are compromised successes for the sake of passage through a deeply divided Congress and some of them are exacting and untouched. (Various critics note the president had a filibuster-proof 60 Democratic vote supermajority in the Senate for his first two years. This is a fallacy as the Democrats have never been a lockstep caucus. There were at least 10 conservative Democrats like Evan Bayh, Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson who vigorously opposed legislation like cap-and-trade and the public option and who often voted or threatened to vote with the Republicans to filibuster such items.)
Historically speaking, no president in American history boasts a flawless record of achievement without dark stains on his record. The chief executive lauded as being the liberal hero of the previous century, Franklin Roosevelt, committed some of the most egregious crimes against humanity in the name of prosecuting World War II, not to mention other, lesser shortcomings. He authorized total war against the Axis powers, giving the military complete latitude to annihilate civilian populations in Europe and Japan using the most deadly weapons of that era. In a modern sense, the firebombing of Tokyo alone would earn Roosevelt an hourly shaming from the progressive blogosphere, if not an outright call for impeachment. Add to it the indefinite detention of the entire Japanese-American civilian population and the authorization/funding of the Manhattan Project ushering in the Cold War nuclear era and progressive heads would be exploding all over the Roosevelt administration's record. But historians, both liberal and unaffiliated, regard Roosevelt in a very different light. The New Deal achievements, Social Security and his posthumous victory in World War II outweigh the questionable deeds along the way.
So despite differences on the progressive side, can't we agree that, in numerical terms if not ideological terms, the victories outweigh the failures by a notable ratio, even if the failures seem, on the surface, considerably disturbing? Therefore, shouldn't a positive evaluation be in order? As a movement that regards itself as being reality-based, a measured analysis is crucial to realistically evaluating the president so far. Admitting to a larger number of successes than failures won't make you less vigilant and it won't make you less capable of holding the president accountable.
Link to my earlier post about this HuffPo column:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002189986
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And the tea baggers believe the same about their people. What does this get us really?
MichiganVote
Jan 2012
#2
They are wrong not to discriminate and tease out the reality of our corporate government
MichiganVote
Jan 2012
#56
Obama made a decision early on that he could forsake the progressive vote in order to woo the
rhett o rick
Jan 2012
#3
FBI statistics show 11,469,120 arrests for a recent 15 year period = millions.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#62
While Obama has been in office, millionaire banksters got 'get-out-of-jail-free' cards. It's been
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#73
Here's the Washington Post on announcement of increased food stamp investigations...
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#99
500,000 African American men mostly, were stopped, frisked and many arrested in
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#68
And States rights are controlled at this level by Obama?...you are really making me laugh
Sheepshank
Jan 2012
#72
Federal law trumps state law including laws on medical marijuana. Did you not know that?
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#97
I admire your "choots-pa" but be warned...the pile-on will continue unabated...
truebrit71
Jan 2012
#88
No thanks. He's made some mistakes that were certainly disappointing, but he's done what
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#60
