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In reply to the discussion: The Truth About Hamas [View all]

harumph

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6. Yes. Hamas committed sexual atrocities Oct 7.
Fri May 15, 2026, 11:51 AM
4 hrs ago

I don't think most reasonable people dispute that. I certainly don't. However, does this have something to do with the recent NYTimes article about Israel abusing their prisoners? The Japanese in WW2 were notorious abusers of prisoners - there is no argument. We abused prisoners in Abu Ghraib - there is no argument. It is never excusable under any circumstances whether committed by non-state actors or nation states. If recent reports are credible, heads need to roll. Here are two statements: People who act violently toward Jews as if Jewish individuals are a proxy for Israel is classic antisemitism, and "Remember Oct 7" is not the win some seem to think it is. Both are true at the same time.

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The Truth About Hamas [View all] question everything 15 hrs ago OP
The Civil Commission's Report on Oct 7th Sexual Violence - Silenced NO More Behind the Aegis 15 hrs ago #1
i've seen a lot of ppl say kristoff's OPINION piece mopinko 8 hrs ago #2
Hamas atrocities were documented by themselves. Using cell phones of victims and question everything 4 hrs ago #3
who can forget? lots of ppl. mopinko 4 hrs ago #4
Absolutely! Mossfern 2 hrs ago #9
they were absolutely ready. the campus protests smelled funny to me at the time. mopinko 2 hrs ago #13
They had the protestors ready to go the next day mcar 2 hrs ago #16
and they sure did. mopinko 2 hrs ago #17
We sure are mcar 1 hr ago #18
ya know, i was a mod here back on the day. mopinko 1 hr ago #20
Yes! The whataboutism is strong. Behind the Aegis 57 min ago #38
As shown on this very thread mcar 56 min ago #39
K&R betsuni 4 hrs ago #5
Yes. Hamas committed sexual atrocities Oct 7. harumph 4 hrs ago #6
Reasonable people shouldn't dispute the atrocities of Oct 7 sarisataka 2 hrs ago #8
I see more deniers of atrocities by and apologists for Israel than apologists for the atrocities of Hamas at DU. PufPuf23 1 hr ago #29
u have it backwards. mopinko 2 hrs ago #12
If that is the case, then it's very bad journo. harumph 1 hr ago #19
i mean, who here trusts the nyt these days? mopinko 1 hr ago #21
K&R Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #7
The truth about Israel. - 78 years of ethnic cleansing malaise 2 hrs ago #10
Are you saying Mossfern 2 hrs ago #11
Answer that re Gaza, Lebanon or the West Bank malaise 1 hr ago #30
propaganda. mopinko 2 hrs ago #15
I literally had a poster here tell me Rob H. 1 hr ago #24
Yes indeed malaise 1 hr ago #28
Watch this also: Nabka Day: Muhammad Shehada on Israel's Ethnic Cleansing in Gaza & Ongoing Palestinian Resilience Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #33
Kick malaise 1 hr ago #35
Time dulls horrific reality - as does Jew hate mcar 2 hrs ago #14
agree. mopinko 1 hr ago #22
It is. nt mcar 1 hr ago #25
Big difference between malaise 1 hr ago #36
I still can't get over Hamas terrorists praised as "freedom fighters." betsuni 39 min ago #40
Mandela-like, they were mcar 36 min ago #41
Didn't happen in a vacuum Blue Full Moon 1 hr ago #23
So does that mean the acts of Oct 7 are justified sarisataka 1 hr ago #26
The conflict in Gaza has been the deadlier for Palestinian journalists there Rob H. 1 hr ago #27
and many of them have turned out to b hamas operatives, mopinko 1 hr ago #31
A good read here malaise 1 hr ago #32
I don't know why it is so hard for some to condemn the atrocities committed by Hamas AND the IDF at the same time. Fil1957 1 hr ago #34
There are at least a few posters on DU, who, even at this late date, Rob H. 1 hr ago #37
No matter how you slice it, there are no "good guys" here. nt Buns_of_Fire 22 min ago #42
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