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In reply to the discussion: Why the United States Will Never, Ever Build the iPhone [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)10. The article eats its own tail.
Those sorts of statistics should bring into cold, clear focus why America's education system is at such a disadvantage when it comes to manufacturing. The problem isn't a lack of elite graduates. We have those. It's our unskilled working class.
It's been widely reported that Chinese schools graduate roughly 600,000 engineers a year, versus about 70,000 in the United States. Some have tried to downplay the severity of that gap by pointing out that as many as half of those Chinese engineers have the equivalent of a 2-year associate's degree. That may be true. But it's also missing the point. China has learned to produce graduates with mid-level technical skills that, as The Atlantic's cover story this month illustrates, are crucial to the modern manufacturing process. The United States needs to learn to do the same if it wants to remain a manufacturing force in the future. Our immediate goal shouldn't be to prep more students for Harvard, Penn State, or University of Central Florida. It should be to find a way to make sure that more than 25% of the students who enroll at community colleges actually graduate within 3 years.
It's been widely reported that Chinese schools graduate roughly 600,000 engineers a year, versus about 70,000 in the United States. Some have tried to downplay the severity of that gap by pointing out that as many as half of those Chinese engineers have the equivalent of a 2-year associate's degree. That may be true. But it's also missing the point. China has learned to produce graduates with mid-level technical skills that, as The Atlantic's cover story this month illustrates, are crucial to the modern manufacturing process. The United States needs to learn to do the same if it wants to remain a manufacturing force in the future. Our immediate goal shouldn't be to prep more students for Harvard, Penn State, or University of Central Florida. It should be to find a way to make sure that more than 25% of the students who enroll at community colleges actually graduate within 3 years.
Here's the problem. Even if America pumps out 600,000 engineers a year with the mid-level technical skills that the Chinese have, the Chinese can do the job for less than two dollars a day.
They're happy to work for Foxconn while living in conditions like this:
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You are correct! This is just like the B.S. about companies unable to find qualified Americans
rfranklin
Jan 2012
#2
Forbes: Cheap Labor, Taxes, Location: Why Apple Doesn't Build Products in the U.S.
rfranklin
Jan 2012
#36
I wouldn't agree with that..a machinst should be able to make cam or a gear for a Rolex
snooper2
Jan 2012
#34
No, I agree. Sometimes we need to use children or segregate workers based on race
Snake Alchemist
Jan 2012
#49
wow we beg your forgivness you have a screwdriver. youre right no one in the us is qualified
leftyohiolib
Jan 2012
#39
Mike the journals, bore guage the saddles, pick the inserts to get the clearence right
Mopar151
Jan 2012
#89
What does it matter, if they train you on the job to do something that requires no skill
hughee99
Jan 2012
#99
At first glance, one would think it's about skill . . . but further on . . .
HughBeaumont
Jan 2012
#18
if they were happy to work under those conditions, foxxconn wouldn't have to erect saftey nets
frylock
Jan 2012
#35
Shit, throw a 10,000 duty on the shit and you'll see a factory in Alabama ASAP
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#43
What a load of fertilizer! Motorola used to have a ton of maunufacturing plants in the US.
retread
Jan 2012
#51
It is funny how these Reich Wing/corporate talking points are now Democratic cannon,
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#53
"Cheap labor isn't the issue?" It is when the slave labor builds it cheaper than robots.
high density
Jan 2012
#66
Well, one reason labor "costs so much here" is we have standards that defend labor.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#80