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In reply to the discussion: Here is when I bought my first gun [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)They are gonna come after my guns is not true. Nor is the slippery slope true.
The police are bad and can't be trusted, is not true. In most circumstances the police has served the country well in cases of actual threat to life.
Crime is up and you need guns to defend yourself are demonstrably false. You just need to take a careful look at FBI national crime statistics. Chief among them, home invasions are WAY DOWN.
We need guns to preserve our freedom from the government is laughable, and seditious. Yes, they push that one too.
You need a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, is mostly a tall tale, and not true... mostly. And the incidents the NRA uses had TRAINED individuals, as in cops, or former military, in a few cases both. And these are few and far between, and take years between one and the next.
We have a right to bear arms, ignore the other two dependent clauses. They are militia service, and security of a free state... moreover, they also ignore contemporary papers to the ratification of the Bill of Rights that mention the individual seldoml if at all, since the militia came way ahead of the individual. So if you are going to divine what founding fathers wanted, the Federalist is a good start. Oh, it is not in the favor of the current NRA, as historical work has repeatedly shown.
Closing the Gun Show loophole will prevent gun owners from selling or buying guns is demonstrably false, six states have done such and has not stopped legal gun owners yet.
I could go on, if you wish.
Of course the NRA of the 1920s (can we get that back pretty please) understood this and was all for actual banning of the assault weapons of their age, the machine guns. They actually went and lobbied Congress, getting us the 1934 laws that in my opinion should be extended to assault rifles, regardless of cute names current of future.
They understood back then that this was not a slippery slope, The NRA of the present day has only one goal, SELL GUNS... and they do it well. In that vein they have worked to WEAKEN legislation, what could go wrong of course? And they are against anything that might affect their true client's ability, which is not the members, but the weapon's manufacturers.
Among other things they havre done, with their friends at ALEC, include restoring gun rights to former Cons. you alright with that?