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Reticuli

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71. of course

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:06 PM

Jan 2012

It's called the Zubrin-Gingrich Prize Program and is associated with Robert Zubrin's Mars Direct plan. Haven't you read The Case for Mars? It's genius. This comment by Newt was the single best moment in any presidential debate in years. All he needed to add was support for the Open Fuel Standard Act, and all the idiots on stage would have been seen for what they are. "No-balls Obama" wouldn't stand much chance against an ambitious opponent like that. Obama might be better in some aspects, but the man has no vision. It's all this rote rhetoric and middling compromise. The man is boring. At least Newt brought up his desire to get rid of subsidies and the obscure inter-competition by the various lobbies who support them. From Obama you’d just get this smile and off-handed comment like he was too good to even discuss the matter.

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***** GOP Debate: January 23rd - 9pm ET on NBC - Live Steam links below ***** PART TWO [View all] Tx4obama Jan 2012 OP

Thanks for starting the... one_voice Jan 2012 #1

You're welcome :) n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #3

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From the Ottoman Empire oberliner Jan 2012 #8

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Wikipedia link to info. There are festivals and parades in various cities: highplainsdem Jan 2012 #10

Thanks. Will check out later when debate is over. - n/t coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #25

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+1 klook Jan 2012 #67

Mitt seems weak and confused oberliner Jan 2012 #7

Self Deportation - Isn't that the set up we have now? powergirl Jan 2012 #9

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Question about sugar turns into "homes underwater" ?? oberliner Jan 2012 #12

I can't stand Willard's effing lies ..... Greywing Jan 2012 #18

Because the moderators are idiots? oberliner Jan 2012 #24

Scared of being called "liberal media," they allow these ReThugs to get away with all kinds of lies. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #26

Ain't that the truth n/t Greywing Jan 2012 #27

I wish that Politifact would host/moderate a debate and have them do their fact-checkinig 'during' Tx4obama Jan 2012 #31

Tampa Bay Times owns Politifact oberliner Jan 2012 #35

When did that happen? Politifact used to be St. Petersburg Times last time I noticed ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #37

The St. Petersburg Times is now the Tampa Bay Times oberliner Jan 2012 #41

Ah, okay. Thanks for the info :) n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #44

Real-time fact checking, with confrontation, would be the most awesome thing ever! NAO Jan 2012 #69

When he goes in after President Obama and how the president "has failed," he sounds Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #16

IMO it's channeling Bachmann. n/t BadgerKid Jan 2012 #22

Now is mitt's dump on PrezO moment. elleng Jan 2012 #14

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With Bachmann, Cain, and Perry gone - it's not as crazy as it used to be :( n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #20

Not as crazy but still just as terrifying and horrifying (and coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #30

Interesting... one_voice Jan 2012 #17

Every debate helps Newt and hurts Mitt oberliner Jan 2012 #19

Newt just got another "important" endorsement powergirl Jan 2012 #23

He was big for a few weeks oberliner Jan 2012 #32

Self deportation? Is this guy fucking serious? Thrill Jan 2012 #21

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Newt believes there should be "prizes" to get the space program going? oberliner Jan 2012 #29

of course Reticuli Jan 2012 #71

Great tax question - completely sidestepped by Newt. jannyk Jan 2012 #33

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Very calculated answer oberliner Jan 2012 #36

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I get the feeling he will oberliner Jan 2012 #47

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Self-Deportation is going to sound silly to people, isn't it? oberliner Jan 2012 #45

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I think it would've hurt him if he went too far in that direction oberliner Jan 2012 #43

The End jannyk Jan 2012 #48

PolitiFact elleng Jan 2012 #49

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No it's not oberliner Jan 2012 #59

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Yeah - the "new normal" oberliner Jan 2012 #66

Another in 3 days!? Good Lord. jannyk Jan 2012 #56

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Because it was boring as shit. LOL!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #62

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