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22. this shit is why we lost

Thu May 21, 2026, 09:28 PM

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...navelgazing instead of focusing our political energy and opposition on the republicans.

Replacing Biden was as good as a republican op. Probably originated as one.

The number of Democrats who have come to believe that dragging their own party is some sort of political genius that gains the party votes at election time is staggering.

I've been told by those on high that this is good and normal, but does it attract votes? Does dragging our own party get us the majority?

If constant critics can't answer that question, they don't deserve to be dominating the political discussions and debates.

There's NOTHING this report is good for except dragging Democrats and providing aid and comfort to the opposition.

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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris [View all] dalton99a Thursday OP

Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Thursday #1

A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Thursday #2

POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Thursday #16

Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 23 hrs ago #77

We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3

Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Thursday #26

But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 23 hrs ago #69

Bingo MustLoveBeagles 23 hrs ago #74

The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Thursday #4

Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Thursday #7

He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Thursday #8

Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Thursday #10

Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Thursday #24

Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime Yesterday #30

I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 23 hrs ago #73

He still thought that too after the election Polybius 18 hrs ago #97

Partly ego fujiyamasan 21 hrs ago #85

While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11

You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime Yesterday #29

Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver Yesterday #61

Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Thursday #14

Here you go Sewa Thursday #15

That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Thursday #18

The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Thursday #25

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #28

"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Thursday #20

It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst Yesterday #46

It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em Yesterday #49

Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 23 hrs ago #75

They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 19 hrs ago #91

He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver Yesterday #62

Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 16 hrs ago #98

Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst Yesterday #45

I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Thursday #5

+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Thursday #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #13

That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Thursday #17

This is a good analysis. yardwork Yesterday #33

It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan Yesterday #57

Absolutely. yardwork 23 hrs ago #66

The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 Yesterday #54

They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 23 hrs ago #67

It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 19 hrs ago #96

No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 19 hrs ago #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #59

Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 20 hrs ago #90

Agreed pinkstarburst Yesterday #48

migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree Yesterday #60

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 21 hrs ago #83

But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Thursday #9

sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree Yesterday #35

He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet Yesterday #40

no he didn't bigtree Yesterday #41

I was just quoting him leftstreet Yesterday #42

no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree Yesterday #44

It was from The National Review leftstreet Yesterday #56

I can read bigtree Yesterday #63

Okay leftstreet 23 hrs ago #68

I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 23 hrs ago #72

Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Thursday #12

what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree Yesterday #37

If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages Yesterday #43

this is delusionary bigtree Yesterday #50

The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages Yesterday #51

no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree Yesterday #55

Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages Yesterday #58

'the party' bigtree Yesterday #64

Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 23 hrs ago #70

not enough Dems showed up bigtree 23 hrs ago #76

You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 23 hrs ago #79

the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 23 hrs ago #81

After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 23 hrs ago #82

Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 21 hrs ago #84

Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Thursday #19

Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Thursday #21

this shit is why we lost bigtree Thursday #22

I agree. hamsterjill Thursday #27

Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat Yesterday #36

What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier Yesterday #38

those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree Yesterday #39

AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 19 hrs ago #94

In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 20 hrs ago #89

Word MustLoveBeagles 21 hrs ago #86

EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 19 hrs ago #93

Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Thursday #23

Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime Yesterday #31

Probably by consultants who want Bettie 23 hrs ago #71

I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 20 hrs ago #87

This is a disgrace. yardwork Yesterday #32

most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree Yesterday #34

I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork Yesterday #47

I think they're good for some things bigtree Yesterday #53

And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking Yesterday #52

And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a Yesterday #65

Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 23 hrs ago #78

+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 23 hrs ago #80

Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 20 hrs ago #88

The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 19 hrs ago #92