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24. Are we sure it was advice?

Reply to dalton99a (Reply #10)

Thu May 21, 2026, 10:11 PM

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It may have been ego. He may have wanted to run (can't really blame him too much for that).

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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris [View all] dalton99a Thursday OP

Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Thursday #1

A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Thursday #2

POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Thursday #16

Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 18 hrs ago #77

We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3

Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Thursday #26

But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 18 hrs ago #69

Bingo MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #74

The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Thursday #4

Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Thursday #7

He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Thursday #8

Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Thursday #10

Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Thursday #24

Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime Yesterday #30

I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 18 hrs ago #73

He still thought that too after the election Polybius 12 hrs ago #97

Partly ego fujiyamasan 15 hrs ago #85

While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11

You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime Yesterday #29

Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #61

Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Thursday #14

Here you go Sewa Thursday #15

That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Thursday #18

The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Thursday #25

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #28

"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Thursday #20

It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #46

It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #49

Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 18 hrs ago #75

They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 14 hrs ago #91

He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 18 hrs ago #62

Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 11 hrs ago #98

Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #45

I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Thursday #5

+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Thursday #6

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That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Thursday #17

This is a good analysis. yardwork 22 hrs ago #33

It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 19 hrs ago #57

Absolutely. yardwork 18 hrs ago #66

The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 19 hrs ago #54

They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 18 hrs ago #67

It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 14 hrs ago #96

No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 14 hrs ago #95

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Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #90

Agreed pinkstarburst 20 hrs ago #48

migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 19 hrs ago #60

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #83

But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Thursday #9

sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 21 hrs ago #35

He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 20 hrs ago #40

no he didn't bigtree 20 hrs ago #41

I was just quoting him leftstreet 20 hrs ago #42

no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 20 hrs ago #44

It was from The National Review leftstreet 19 hrs ago #56

I can read bigtree 18 hrs ago #63

Okay leftstreet 18 hrs ago #68

I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 18 hrs ago #72

Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Thursday #12

what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 21 hrs ago #37

If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 20 hrs ago #43

this is delusionary bigtree 19 hrs ago #50

The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 19 hrs ago #51

no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 19 hrs ago #55

Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 19 hrs ago #58

'the party' bigtree 18 hrs ago #64

Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 18 hrs ago #70

not enough Dems showed up bigtree 18 hrs ago #76

You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 18 hrs ago #79

the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 17 hrs ago #81

After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 17 hrs ago #82

Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #84

Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Thursday #19

Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Thursday #21

this shit is why we lost bigtree Thursday #22

I agree. hamsterjill Thursday #27

Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 21 hrs ago #36

What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 21 hrs ago #38

those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 20 hrs ago #39

AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 14 hrs ago #94

In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 15 hrs ago #89

Word MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #86

EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 14 hrs ago #93

Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Thursday #23

Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime Yesterday #31

Probably by consultants who want Bettie 18 hrs ago #71

I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 15 hrs ago #87

This is a disgrace. yardwork 22 hrs ago #32

most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 21 hrs ago #34

I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 20 hrs ago #47

I think they're good for some things bigtree 19 hrs ago #53

And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 19 hrs ago #52

And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 18 hrs ago #65

Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 18 hrs ago #78

+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 18 hrs ago #80

Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 15 hrs ago #88

The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 14 hrs ago #92