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41. no he didn't
Fri May 22, 2026, 11:24 AM
4 hrs ago

...that's not a credible interpretation of his quote.

“For every blue-collar Democrat we will lose in western P.A., we will pick up two, three moderate Republicans in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin,” he said.

He was making an inartful point about how predicted the race would go. It didn't drive anything but his critics and media hacks writing underneath clickbait titles.

And ANYONE claiming republicans have ever given blue collar workers more than lip service is just lying, and doesn't deserve to be mollycoddled because they chose a wealthy criminal and a party that does nothing but enrich themselves and their CEOs over a party that doesn't little else but represent the people.

Of course, I don't expect anyone who thinks this is a credible attack on Schumer to bother to mention the reams of other words he's used over his decades long career in Congress in actual support of legislative efforts that support working class people in this country.

Anyone who claims the party doesn't is just lying. That's not Schumer's fault that some people choose, anyway, to believe pure bullshit about him and the party.

Democrats have always worked to support the working class, while republicans just talk about it as they undermine them with EVERY vote they take on behalf of their wealthy benefactors instead of working Americans.

It's just mindnumbingly misleading and false to claim he believes or said "we don't need blue-collar workers." It's just sickening to twist what he said just to oppose him. It's just denigrating of Democrats, not to mention his entire career standing up for working people.

I really don't expect, though, that people who make broadsides at Schumer or the party to bother to look to see what his actual advocacy has been, instead of misleading lies like this old, tired claim people other than you have made, encouraging others to adopt this sophistry.

To what end? That people who engage with this lie believe Democrats don't support the working class? Why bend this out of context? It makes no sense at all to me for anyone in the Democratic party to engage in self-destructive sophistry like this.

To what end?

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Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Yesterday #1
A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Yesterday #2
POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 21 hrs ago #16
Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 1 hr ago #77
We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #3
Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg 16 hrs ago #26
But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 2 hrs ago #69
Bingo MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #74
The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Yesterday #4
Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Yesterday #7
He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Yesterday #8
Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Yesterday #10
Are we sure it was advice? Polybius 17 hrs ago #24
Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime 13 hrs ago #30
I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 1 hr ago #73
While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #11
You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime 13 hrs ago #29
Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #61
Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj 23 hrs ago #14
Here you go Sewa 21 hrs ago #15
That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj 20 hrs ago #18
The bottomline is that Biden Sewa 17 hrs ago #25
Post removed Post removed 15 hrs ago #28
"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 19 hrs ago #20
It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 3 hrs ago #46
It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 3 hrs ago #49
Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 1 hr ago #75
He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #62
Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 3 hrs ago #45
I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #5
+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Yesterday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed 23 hrs ago #13
That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan 20 hrs ago #17
This is a good analysis. yardwork 5 hrs ago #33
It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #57
Absolutely. yardwork 2 hrs ago #66
The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 2 hrs ago #54
They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 2 hrs ago #67
Message auto-removed Name removed 2 hrs ago #59
Agreed pinkstarburst 3 hrs ago #48
migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 2 hrs ago #60
But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Yesterday #9
sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 5 hrs ago #35
He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 4 hrs ago #40
no he didn't bigtree 4 hrs ago #41
I was just quoting him leftstreet 4 hrs ago #42
no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 3 hrs ago #44
It was from The National Review leftstreet 2 hrs ago #56
I can read bigtree 2 hrs ago #63
Okay leftstreet 2 hrs ago #68
I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 1 hr ago #72
Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages 23 hrs ago #12
what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 4 hrs ago #37
If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 3 hrs ago #43
this is delusionary bigtree 3 hrs ago #50
The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 3 hrs ago #51
no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 2 hrs ago #55
Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 2 hrs ago #58
'the party' bigtree 2 hrs ago #64
Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 2 hrs ago #70
not enough Dems showed up bigtree 1 hr ago #76
You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 1 hr ago #79
the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 1 hr ago #81
After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 1 hr ago #82
Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See 20 hrs ago #19
Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni 18 hrs ago #21
this shit is why we lost bigtree 18 hrs ago #22
I agree. hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #27
Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 5 hrs ago #36
What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 4 hrs ago #38
those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 4 hrs ago #39
Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius 17 hrs ago #23
Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime 12 hrs ago #31
Probably by consultants who want Bettie 2 hrs ago #71
This is a disgrace. yardwork 5 hrs ago #32
most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 5 hrs ago #34
I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 3 hrs ago #47
I think they're good for some things bigtree 3 hrs ago #53
And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 3 hrs ago #52
And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 2 hrs ago #65
Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 1 hr ago #78
+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 1 hr ago #80
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