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46. It's not typically done to primary a sitting president

Fri May 22, 2026, 11:50 AM

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Biden should have graciously announced he was not running and he should have done it with enough time for a full primary to be held. The results might have been the same. Harris might still have been the candidate. But the country would have felt like they got to choose her. That was a big factor, I felt like. People felt forced into Biden-Trump in 2024, which no one wanted. No one wanted two 80 year old men on the ticket. Terrible choice either way. And no one chose Kamala Harris except Joe Biden. One person picked her. And then after Biden's late withdrawal, the country had another ticket forced on them. If she had run in a primary and been chosen, it would have given her a different sense of momentum, I feel like.

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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris [View all] dalton99a Thursday OP

Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Thursday #1

A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Thursday #2

POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Thursday #16

Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 10 hrs ago #77

We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3

Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Thursday #26

But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 10 hrs ago #69

Bingo MustLoveBeagles 10 hrs ago #74

The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Thursday #4

Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Thursday #7

He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Thursday #8

Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Thursday #10

Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Thursday #24

Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime 21 hrs ago #30

I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 10 hrs ago #73

He still thought that too after the election Polybius 5 hrs ago #97

Partly ego fujiyamasan 8 hrs ago #85

While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11

You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime 22 hrs ago #29

Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #61

Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Thursday #14

Here you go Sewa Thursday #15

That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Thursday #18

The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Thursday #25

Post removed Post removed 23 hrs ago #28

"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Thursday #20

It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 12 hrs ago #46

It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #49

Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 10 hrs ago #75

They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 7 hrs ago #91

He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #62

Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 3 hrs ago #98

Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 12 hrs ago #45

I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Thursday #5

+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Thursday #6

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That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Thursday #17

This is a good analysis. yardwork 14 hrs ago #33

It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #57

Absolutely. yardwork 11 hrs ago #66

The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 11 hrs ago #54

They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 11 hrs ago #67

It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 6 hrs ago #96

No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 6 hrs ago #95

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Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 7 hrs ago #90

Agreed pinkstarburst 12 hrs ago #48

migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 11 hrs ago #60

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #83

But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Thursday #9

sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree 13 hrs ago #35

He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 13 hrs ago #40

no he didn't bigtree 12 hrs ago #41

I was just quoting him leftstreet 12 hrs ago #42

no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 12 hrs ago #44

It was from The National Review leftstreet 11 hrs ago #56

I can read bigtree 11 hrs ago #63

Okay leftstreet 10 hrs ago #68

I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 10 hrs ago #72

Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Thursday #12

what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree 13 hrs ago #37

If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 12 hrs ago #43

this is delusionary bigtree 12 hrs ago #50

The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 12 hrs ago #51

no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 11 hrs ago #55

Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 11 hrs ago #58

'the party' bigtree 11 hrs ago #64

Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 10 hrs ago #70

not enough Dems showed up bigtree 10 hrs ago #76

You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 10 hrs ago #79

the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 10 hrs ago #81

After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 10 hrs ago #82

Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #84

Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Thursday #19

Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Thursday #21

this shit is why we lost bigtree Thursday #22

I agree. hamsterjill Thursday #27

Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat 13 hrs ago #36

What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 13 hrs ago #38

those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 13 hrs ago #39

AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 6 hrs ago #94

In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 7 hrs ago #89

Word MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #86

EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 6 hrs ago #93

Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Thursday #23

Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime 21 hrs ago #31

Probably by consultants who want Bettie 10 hrs ago #71

I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 7 hrs ago #87

This is a disgrace. yardwork 14 hrs ago #32

most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree 14 hrs ago #34

I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 12 hrs ago #47

I think they're good for some things bigtree 11 hrs ago #53

And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 12 hrs ago #52

And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 11 hrs ago #65

Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 10 hrs ago #78

+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 10 hrs ago #80

Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 7 hrs ago #88

The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 6 hrs ago #92