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53. I think they're good for some things
Fri May 22, 2026, 12:26 PM
22 hrs ago

...but I'd be pressed to find more than the party faithful who even know what they are, much less depend on them to make up their minds about candidates.

I get everything about them except the importance of the 'analyzing,' which you can see only serves the party's detractors, and does absolutely nothing to generate the support for the party at elections that their critics claim they want DNC to produce at election time.

Look at what it's being used for here.

There's no true line between what their detractors say they want from DNC to any responsible or credible organizing effort; at least not in anything you've written here.

What is the throughline from the analysis to getting voters? I'd guess it's going to fall right along individual political aims, rather than some universal appeal.

That's because the best of what the DNC does is a crap shoot of disbursing resources they generate through their outreach to viable candidates. The messaging complaints aren't any better at generating voters than whatever the DNC is politicking with, so it's a wonder any of these folks complaining about them believe they have something substantive to offer that would get more people to vote Democratic.

I mean, the entire campaign was full of these people grandstanding against this Democrat or another Democratic org like THAT was the bee's knees of political opposition, instead of just going straight after republicans.

I mean, when should we have expected the actual support of the Democratic party in that election to begin from those folks?

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Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b Thursday #1
A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop Thursday #2
POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 Thursday #16
Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades 20 hrs ago #77
We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3
Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg Thursday #26
But, we think that people who aren't Bettie 21 hrs ago #69
Bingo MustLoveBeagles 21 hrs ago #74
The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil Thursday #4
Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop Thursday #7
He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia Thursday #8
Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a Thursday #10
Are we sure it was advice? Polybius Thursday #24
Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime Yesterday #30
I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan 21 hrs ago #73
He still thought that too after the election Polybius 15 hrs ago #97
Partly ego fujiyamasan 18 hrs ago #85
While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ Thursday #11
You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime Yesterday #29
Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #61
Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj Thursday #14
Here you go Sewa Thursday #15
That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj Thursday #18
The bottomline is that Biden Sewa Thursday #25
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #28
"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 Thursday #20
It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst 22 hrs ago #46
It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em 22 hrs ago #49
Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan 21 hrs ago #75
They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 17 hrs ago #91
He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #62
Here's a great piece RoseTrellis 14 hrs ago #98
Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst 22 hrs ago #45
I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath Thursday #5
+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a Thursday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #13
That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan Thursday #17
This is a good analysis. yardwork Yesterday #33
It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan 21 hrs ago #57
Absolutely. yardwork 21 hrs ago #66
The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 22 hrs ago #54
They couldn't figure out how? yardwork 21 hrs ago #67
It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni 16 hrs ago #96
No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni 16 hrs ago #95
Message auto-removed Name removed 21 hrs ago #59
Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo 18 hrs ago #90
Agreed pinkstarburst 22 hrs ago #48
migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree 21 hrs ago #60
Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #83
But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet Thursday #9
sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree Yesterday #35
He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet 23 hrs ago #40
no he didn't bigtree 23 hrs ago #41
I was just quoting him leftstreet 23 hrs ago #42
no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree 22 hrs ago #44
It was from The National Review leftstreet 22 hrs ago #56
I can read bigtree 21 hrs ago #63
Okay leftstreet 21 hrs ago #68
I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree 21 hrs ago #72
Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages Thursday #12
what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree Yesterday #37
If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages 23 hrs ago #43
this is delusionary bigtree 22 hrs ago #50
The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages 22 hrs ago #51
no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree 22 hrs ago #55
Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages 21 hrs ago #58
'the party' bigtree 21 hrs ago #64
Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages 21 hrs ago #70
not enough Dems showed up bigtree 20 hrs ago #76
You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages 20 hrs ago #79
the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree 20 hrs ago #81
After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages 20 hrs ago #82
Thank you again MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #84
Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See Thursday #19
Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni Thursday #21
this shit is why we lost bigtree Thursday #22
I agree. hamsterjill Thursday #27
Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat Yesterday #36
What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier 23 hrs ago #38
those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree 23 hrs ago #39
AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See 16 hrs ago #94
In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan 18 hrs ago #89
Word MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #86
EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See 17 hrs ago #93
Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius Thursday #23
Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime Yesterday #31
Probably by consultants who want Bettie 21 hrs ago #71
I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan 18 hrs ago #87
This is a disgrace. yardwork Yesterday #32
most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree Yesterday #34
I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork 22 hrs ago #47
I think they're good for some things bigtree 22 hrs ago #53
And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking 22 hrs ago #52
And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a 21 hrs ago #65
Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan 20 hrs ago #78
+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a 20 hrs ago #80
Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube 18 hrs ago #88
The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo 17 hrs ago #92
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