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In reply to the discussion: That crying you hear is the Republican Party. That crunching is Obama eating their lunch. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)112. Sarah got it from Rush. He helped get a GOP majority to prevent Hillary's Death Panels:
Clinton health care plan of 1993

The Clinton health care plan was a 1993 healthcare reform package proposed by the administration of President Bill Clinton and closely associated with the chair of the task force devising the plan, First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 U.S. presidential election. The task force was created in January 1993, but its own processes were somewhat controversial and drew litigation. Its goal was to come up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda. A major health care speech was delivered by President Clinton to the U.S. Congress in September 1993. The core element of the proposed plan was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees through competitive but closely regulated health maintenance organizations.
Opposition to the plan was heavy from conservatives, libertarians, and the health insurance industry. The industry produced a highly effective television ad, "Harry and Louise", in an effort to rally public support against the plan. Democrats, instead of uniting behind the President's original proposal, offered a number of competing plans of their own. Hillary Clinton was drafted by the Clinton Administration to head a new Task Force and sell the plan to the American people, a plan which ultimately backfired amid the barrage of fire from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries and considerably diminished her own popularity. By September 1994, the final compromise Democratic bill was declared dead by Senate Majority Leader George J. Mitchell...
The 1994 mid-term election became, in the opinion of one media observer, a "referendum on big government Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape."[19] In that 1994 election, the Republican revolution, led by Newt Gingrich, gave the GOP control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate for the first time since the 83rd Congress of 19531954, ending prospects for a Clinton-sponsored health care overhaul. Comprehensive health care reform in the United States was not seriously considered or enacted by Congress until Barack Obama's election in 2008.
More at the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan
I understand the feelings of those who supported her in 2008, up to a point when I remember those days. Those who couldn't get over that she lost the primary to Obama, I have no use for. We'll never know what kind of POTUS she would have been, but she was farther to the right than I liked.
I listened to Rush in those years on the radio to see what was up. He was on the air at least 3 hours IIRC, replayed on the weekends. He went long and hard on how the health care bill would install death panels, like Nazi Germany, to decide who was worth living.
He focused on scaring the elderly and those with disabled people in their families. I watched people who had never voted GOP go to the polls to change the House so that they wouldn't be killed. No kidding.
Whisp, the next misrepresented poutrage will appear soon, but the people writing this stuff are in the real world, libertarians. That they seek to destroy our unity here by scaring us about compromises to the social safety net, the 'death of the liberal class' etc. are quoting people who are neither liberal, progressives or believe in the social safety net to begin with. Ironic and pathetic at the same time, a very well funded divisive technique.

The Clinton health care plan was a 1993 healthcare reform package proposed by the administration of President Bill Clinton and closely associated with the chair of the task force devising the plan, First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 U.S. presidential election. The task force was created in January 1993, but its own processes were somewhat controversial and drew litigation. Its goal was to come up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda. A major health care speech was delivered by President Clinton to the U.S. Congress in September 1993. The core element of the proposed plan was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees through competitive but closely regulated health maintenance organizations.
Opposition to the plan was heavy from conservatives, libertarians, and the health insurance industry. The industry produced a highly effective television ad, "Harry and Louise", in an effort to rally public support against the plan. Democrats, instead of uniting behind the President's original proposal, offered a number of competing plans of their own. Hillary Clinton was drafted by the Clinton Administration to head a new Task Force and sell the plan to the American people, a plan which ultimately backfired amid the barrage of fire from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries and considerably diminished her own popularity. By September 1994, the final compromise Democratic bill was declared dead by Senate Majority Leader George J. Mitchell...
The 1994 mid-term election became, in the opinion of one media observer, a "referendum on big government Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape."[19] In that 1994 election, the Republican revolution, led by Newt Gingrich, gave the GOP control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate for the first time since the 83rd Congress of 19531954, ending prospects for a Clinton-sponsored health care overhaul. Comprehensive health care reform in the United States was not seriously considered or enacted by Congress until Barack Obama's election in 2008.
More at the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan
I understand the feelings of those who supported her in 2008, up to a point when I remember those days. Those who couldn't get over that she lost the primary to Obama, I have no use for. We'll never know what kind of POTUS she would have been, but she was farther to the right than I liked.
I listened to Rush in those years on the radio to see what was up. He was on the air at least 3 hours IIRC, replayed on the weekends. He went long and hard on how the health care bill would install death panels, like Nazi Germany, to decide who was worth living.
He focused on scaring the elderly and those with disabled people in their families. I watched people who had never voted GOP go to the polls to change the House so that they wouldn't be killed. No kidding.
Whisp, the next misrepresented poutrage will appear soon, but the people writing this stuff are in the real world, libertarians. That they seek to destroy our unity here by scaring us about compromises to the social safety net, the 'death of the liberal class' etc. are quoting people who are neither liberal, progressives or believe in the social safety net to begin with. Ironic and pathetic at the same time, a very well funded divisive technique.
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That crying you hear is the Republican Party. That crunching is Obama eating their lunch. [View all]
DonRedwood
Jan 2013
OP
in reality the dead can't rise as long as there is bright light shining on them
Voice for Peace
Jan 2013
#43
'Killing them with kindness' is a good strategy. Still give them room (rope) to change...
freshwest
Jan 2013
#86
I'm disgusted with the amount of negative politics that all this has created
DonRedwood
Jan 2013
#23
Yes, apt and sad analogy, which happens all too often in the (sur)real world. (n/t)
klook
Jan 2013
#37
It does lend itself to comedy. If Boehner cries today, it will be, well, a perfect day
DonRedwood
Jan 2013
#16
I like your whole observation. But what I worry about is these seats that are
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#39
Your right he is but remember these districts are really red districts. I pray your right.
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#67
It's a dam shame that our government has been reduced to some form of 3D chess game...
wandy
Jan 2013
#64
"republicans tend to bring checkers to a chess match" is my favorite thing from DU today
DonRedwood
Jan 2013
#74
Sarah got it from Rush. He helped get a GOP majority to prevent Hillary's Death Panels:
freshwest
Jan 2013
#112