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Chan790

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45. That's a broad brush.

Reply to Odin2005 (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:58 PM

Jan 2013

It doesn't really fit as there are good and bad people in all of the above named institutions...and some of us have worked very hard to clean up that kind of behavior among actives and alumni. We have to be strict, we're the lightning rod that everybody else blames their shit behavior on.

Please don't confuse us or even the tough enforcement and oversight of the NCAA and NAIA over collegiate student-athletes for the depravity of some HS psychopaths whose parents are shielding them.

Sincerely,

A former HS and collegiate athlete (football), former president of the campus resident-hall association, former resident director and resident assistant, former chapter president of my fraternity, former president of my campus Greek-life council, current national board member and spiritual chair of my college fraternity.

P.S. Anime Club, the Frisbee-golf club-sport team, K of C and College Democrats were bigger miscreants than we were at my private university in DC.

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K&R nt Mnemosyne Jan 2013 #10

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You're broad brushing ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #126

Here we go . . . radicalliberal Jan 2013 #129

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You were actually doing okay with your original comments ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #202

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Football is a religion in this country. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #184

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I know MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #19

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First of all MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #107

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And that one text makes everything else just go away for you? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #141

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If you admit publicly to a crime Tsiyu Jan 2013 #144

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holy shit MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #146

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UtahLib Tsiyu Jan 2013 #158

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Anything she texted the following day is meaningless. seabeyond Jan 2013 #162

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You don't see any evidence of a crime????????????????? yardwork Jan 2013 #110

INORITE!?! MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #113

He and the sheriff and the prosecuting attorney and all 19 coaches in Steubenville. yardwork Jan 2013 #117

Indeed. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #118

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Ah. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #147

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bryant, pittsburgh steelers quaterback rapist. these rapists are on national tv held up as gods seabeyond Jan 2013 #191

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Scum of the earth! radicalliberal Jan 2013 #192

There is a trial scheduled next month and that decision was made doc03 Jan 2013 #135

I don't believe that text message BS historylovr Jan 2013 #152

Why does the VICTIM have to hire her own attorney?????!!!!! yardwork Jan 2013 #164

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I understand, and that's clearly what's going to happen here. yardwork Jan 2013 #222

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Horrible! The Rape Crew needs to be held accountable! In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #102

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Occupy Steubenville joelbny Jan 2013 #111

Nice! MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #124

Thanks and welcome to DU! smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #179

Very shocking Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #139

Having seen the video Riftaxe Jan 2013 #177

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In post-industrial America BainsBane Jan 2013 #180

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