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Chellee

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57. Trap/euthanize or trap/relocate doesn't work as well as TNR.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

Ferals choose a location based on the exploitable natural resources, something that every species does, including birds and humans. If you remove the colony it creates something called a vacuum effect, and more ferals will move into the area because those exact same resources still exist. TNR works by stabilizing the colony at a manageable size. The cats defend their own territory and keep new ferals from moving in. The majority of feral prey is rodents, not birds.

In rural areas nature takes care of stabilizing the size of the colony. In urban areas, with fewer natural predators, neutering is necessary. Cats are attracted to human populations, because rodents are attracted to human populations. Humans are rodent magnets. As a species, we spill a lot of food.

There is a difference between ferals and strays. You have to stop thinking of ferals as strays, they're not, they're wild. Strays can easily be re-homed and should be; the colony and the stray are both better off. There is a limited opportunity to socialize a feral kitten. A socialized feral kitten will grow up to be a domesticated cat.

A feral adult cat may learn to tolerate humans, but they will never be truly domesticated. Just like those idjits that keep chimpanzees and tigers in their apartments, someone keeping a feral cat should know that he could one day respond to a trigger that only he knows, and attack. Luckily he's small, so he probably won't kill anybody or rip someone's face off, like a tiger or a chimp, but still, don't ever think he's "tame."

I realize that it seems like euthanasia is the answer, but reality demonstrates that it doesn't work long term. Your concern for the birds is admirable. However, birds and cats have existed side by side for thousands of years and will continue to do so, without our interference. Unless of course we are interfering by creating artificial environments for the birds, with unnatural amounts of food and shelter. By luring them to places that they wouldn't normally be in great numbers, it throws off the balance of nature. People who do that, shouldn't then complain that the balance is off.

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Good. Undismayed Jan 2013 #1
Um, I have two... brooklynite Jan 2013 #3
I would not call someone with 2 cats as a cat nut LynneSin Jan 2013 #4
Cat nut here-have four. narnian60 Jan 2013 #5
I have 6 cats, Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #6
Okay. Wait Wut Jan 2013 #11
you damn crazy nut! Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #14
Sometimes. Wait Wut Jan 2013 #19
I have two - rescue cats, if I hadn't taken them in, they would have been euthanized. They r indoors Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #13
Well... Rod Mollise Jan 2013 #26
I see what you did here regjoe Jan 2013 #27
Me, too. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #49
I have 4 cats. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #31
My two Attack Cats hate you now slackmaster Jan 2013 #32
I think the way to LWolf Jan 2013 #39
Thank you for being so kind & unselfish. narnian60 Jan 2013 #40
There is no such thing as an escape-proof yard. tech3149 Jan 2013 #56
Sure there is. LWolf Jan 2013 #63
So you don't care about the environment? dbackjon Jan 2013 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jan 2013 #46
I have 6. City Lights Jan 2013 #47
the problem is overdevelopment, suburbia and deforestation… not cats. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #59
Wrong dbackjon Jan 2013 #66
(If that was a serious post) -- How rude. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #60
I'm sure I'll get slammed but I have no problem with this law and here's why.... LynneSin Jan 2013 #2
But those guys with 187 dogs, that's fine, right? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #8
I think in general there should be pet limits LynneSin Jan 2013 #10
I don't either, and here's why Tempest Jan 2013 #9
Should they be arrested if they have 10+ cats in very good conditions? onenote Jan 2013 #33
I have yet to hear of anyone with that many cats... Tempest Jan 2013 #35
I had a neighbor who used to have 75 cats and they all were very healthy and happy. Big Blue Marble Jan 2013 #41
So for your one story, I have more than a dozen Tempest Jan 2013 #42
You said you had yet to hear of one story. Big Blue Marble Jan 2013 #70
See my post # 39. LWolf Jan 2013 #43
My city is paralyzed on what to do about strays Tempest Jan 2013 #45
I've seen that with dogs. LWolf Jan 2013 #48
Stray dogs is a problem in the surrounding farm lands Tempest Jan 2013 #54
Reasonable. HappyMe Jan 2013 #7
I have no problem with taking cats away from someone who doesn't properly care for them onenote Jan 2013 #62
It's four here TrogL Jan 2013 #12
I don't have a problem... MicaelS Jan 2013 #15
So not having TNR will cause feral populations to decrease? How? TNR is proven to work in sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author MicaelS Jan 2013 #23
You are 100% wrong - TNR is a ABJECT FAILURE dbackjon Jan 2013 #68
Are you the leading authority on TNR? sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #69
Trap/euthanize or trap/relocate doesn't work as well as TNR. Chellee Jan 2013 #57
An excellent post, thank you very much. MicaelS Jan 2013 #58
Exactly!! dbackjon Jan 2013 #67
That makes no sense. MadrasT Jan 2013 #16
Maybe because people take in HappyMe Jan 2013 #18
Best Post!!! bluethruandthru Jan 2013 #20
absolutely.... mike_c Jan 2013 #30
Most cats become strays because of owners Tempest Jan 2013 #36
My thought was that this law will increase OnionPatch Jan 2013 #51
Only Four? How can you feed a family on only four cats? DonRedwood Jan 2013 #17
What does the number of 'owned' cats have to do with a stray cat problem? Why didn't they sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #21
RIGHT. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #50
cat hoarding is álso a problem. ive seen houses over run with them loli phabay Jan 2013 #24
We have 2 indoors only rescues and 4 bird feeders. we can do it Jan 2013 #25
This is fucking stupid. bunnies Jan 2013 #28
*** ^^^ this ^^^ *** mike_c Jan 2013 #34
exactly. bunnies Jan 2013 #37
Yes but in our culture, we only know how to Rex Jan 2013 #52
Is that four for the wife and four for the husband then? dkf Jan 2013 #29
It's not going to stop hoarding. That's a mental illness Warpy Jan 2013 #38
Cat ownership should be a requirement for gun ownership flashsmith99 Jan 2013 #44
That's kind of a weird thing to post, flashsmith99 but I'm not sure that I totally disagree with you slackmaster Jan 2013 #55
I've noticed that people who hate cats tend to have major control issues. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #61
Los Angeles has an ordinance limiting people to 3 dogs, cats, or a combination of the two. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #53
Good - I wish more cities did the same dbackjon Jan 2013 #64
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