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JNelson6563

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42. I should think narcissistic women do too.

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:37 PM

Jan 2012

We are all born narcissists as it is a self-preservation thing. Depending on how healthy the environment we grow up in is determines how much of the narcissism gets shed.

Narcissism is a particularly stressful condition in that the narcissist is on constant guard to protect self image and avert blame for anything that matters. There is often a good deal of manipulating others, often using lies. This adds to the stress level in that the narcissist has to worry about keeping the stories straight as well as keeping the people who have different versions away from each other so no such discoveries are made.

On and on goes the list of characteristics and behaviors of the narcissist. The more severe the condition, the more miserable the people around them. I've never known the characteristics to differ between genders.

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Narcissistic men have higher levels of stress hormone [View all] seabeyond Jan 2012 OP

if only the ladies would recognize this and stop perpetuating the genes Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #1

lol. i think it works both ways with the narcissist. to some of us, they are so obvious seabeyond Jan 2012 #2

I was married to one laundry_queen Jan 2012 #9

you know what you are talking about, that is evident. i have had a lifetime watching with my middle seabeyond Jan 2012 #11

It is a fascinating subject laundry_queen Jan 2012 #21

the kids are now 17, 19 and 23. but you are right seabeyond Jan 2012 #33

(High fives Laundry Queen)--We should start a club lapislzi Jan 2012 #13

We should. laundry_queen Jan 2012 #17

Like I always say: nobody gets punched in the nose on the first date lapislzi Jan 2012 #24

You never expect the one who says they love you MuseRider Jan 2012 #87

you went into it expecting a normal person seabeyond Jan 2012 #88

He sounds much like my alcoholic brother. MuseRider Jan 2012 #90

you know.... seabeyond Jan 2012 #91

You are quite welcome. MuseRider Jan 2012 #93

good to hear that. seabeyond Jan 2012 #95

My brother's wife is like that. Perhaps she is one..... never thought of that before. glinda Jan 2012 #97

ex is 110% predictable seabeyond Jan 2012 #18

"They cannot stand anything they cannot control or manipulate to their own ends. " snagglepuss Jan 2012 #56

Very very interesting post esp the point the narcissists pick you and know how to manipulate you. snagglepuss Jan 2012 #55

One of my uncles was/is one. He favored me then when he found out that I loved the glinda Jan 2012 #96

Psychologists talk about the "narcissistic wound," Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #26

what was interesting in my brother raising. he was always special. because a middle child seabeyond Jan 2012 #32

I tend to go with "being coddled or privileged" and then believing that you are entitled to that. glinda Jan 2012 #98

I had a child with a sociopath in 1998 LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #83

your child would be about the same age as mine. seabeyond Jan 2012 #85

Surviving. n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #89

time for more. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #92

It can? Uggggh. glinda Jan 2012 #99

Operative word is can LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #104

It sure seems to correlate that the more successful in business, the more self involved, hubristic a WingDinger Jan 2012 #3

maybe narcissism has to do with success, or allows it more readily. think i have read seabeyond Jan 2012 #4

You seem to describe compensatory aggrandizement. Like violent felons. WingDinger Jan 2012 #5

interesting. but, i dont know. the few i know, and the one i know well seabeyond Jan 2012 #14

They are setting others up to fail lapislzi Jan 2012 #10

this is absolutely right on. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #12

Yes, it is. Habibi Jan 2012 #16

my MIL is way controlling, betcha way more than yours BUT seabeyond Jan 2012 #19

addicts often act the same way a narcissist does laundry_queen Jan 2012 #23

Control of a different color. lapislzi Jan 2012 #29

her behavior is totally opposite to how i was raised adn what my parents were. seabeyond Jan 2012 #34

Adult child of alcoholic narcissists here. yardwork Jan 2012 #61

Here's to therapy. lapislzi Jan 2012 #70

Thanks. Actually, making peace with my parents isn't a high priority. yardwork Jan 2012 #72

damn... and i am the complete opposite. seabeyond Jan 2012 #74

That is right on. Others are at fault or flawed. Thus they create delusions and delusional glinda Jan 2012 #100

In business *and* in politics. redqueen Jan 2012 #20

I've always thought that that explains everything, really. yardwork Jan 2012 #62

there is a point there. seabeyond Jan 2012 #65

Wow! My two relatives totally fit that. glinda Jan 2012 #101

That explains Newt. n/t countingbluecars Jan 2012 #6

I think I am an anti-narcissist male. dawg Jan 2012 #7

LOL...you and my husband lapislzi Jan 2012 #49

There's a great deal of overlap among narcissism and other personality disorders lapislzi Jan 2012 #8

you, too, know what you are talking about. this is so interesting to me. seabeyond Jan 2012 #15

Narcissists rarely seek treatment unless all their sources of support run dry undeterred Jan 2012 #27

interesting. thank you. seabeyond Jan 2012 #35

The narcissist in my life is offended by any medical professional who suggests any change. yardwork Jan 2012 #63

that describes it perfectly undeterred Jan 2012 #78

Good resource for BPD and related disorders lapislzi Jan 2012 #37

i am going to read this. thanks. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #38

Another anti-male post? Fuzz Jan 2012 #22

no. if you wil read all my posts, you will continually see i say it is BOTH genders seabeyond Jan 2012 #36

So I have a history of bashing women? Because I thought that one thread had popcorn potential? Fuzz Jan 2012 #50

if we have a thread discussing narcissism, that is bashing EVERYONE equally? lmfao. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #51

Yeah, I think I need to stop talking to you. You are too angry and can't understand sarcasm. Plus Fuzz Jan 2012 #52

How come the title only mentions men? Zalatix Jan 2012 #54

how come cnn put this story up today? because they are discussing the increase of chemical that seabeyond Jan 2012 #59

Woah there, I am attacking CNN, not you. You were more balanced than CNN. Zalatix Jan 2012 #75

couple things on that. i think if you will watch, seabeyond Jan 2012 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author lapislzi Jan 2012 #41

narcissistic males, not males-- a critical, precise and relevant difference LanternWaste Jan 2012 #73

The post was referring to another interaction, and not a comment on the actual article. Fuzz Jan 2012 #79

another "anti male" post? is really not about the supposed anti male post. another, lmfao. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #80

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #81

back pedal as fast as you can, bubba. you threw out a totally ridiculous and untrue criticism seabeyond Jan 2012 #82

No. It was popcorn because I figured the thread would get crazy because of the stupidity! Fuzz Jan 2012 #84

ya. gotcha. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #86

So it's like male PMS? The Straight Story Jan 2012 #25

Uh oh! HappyMe Jan 2012 #30

i think it might be a subject you would be interested in. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #39

Explains why I'm always so calm... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #28

Another reason Newt shouldn't be President treestar Jan 2012 #31

Soooo......according to Konrath, narcissism is simply the result of a biological process. Avalux Jan 2012 #40

Yes and no lapislzi Jan 2012 #47

interesting. i am glad you replied to this. i was curious myself. i can seabeyond Jan 2012 #48

You are correct.... Avalux Jan 2012 #53

Have you any idea how difficult it is to have everything be about you? lapislzi Jan 2012 #57

This is what research has suggested. siligut Jan 2012 #76

Some go after family inheritances because they feel "entitled". glinda Jan 2012 #102

I should think narcissistic women do too. JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #42

Yes, I would think so as well. nt redqueen Jan 2012 #43

reading the article, not so much the character but the stress level, per the article. seabeyond Jan 2012 #44

In my experience, narcissists spend a lot of time avoiding anything they don't like. Lying is a tool yardwork Jan 2012 #69

i really find this very interesting seabeyond Jan 2012 #71

Oh damn. I do have two in my family. Damn...... they also attack glinda Jan 2012 #103

This is about me, isn't it? Isn't it???!!! Tom Ripley Jan 2012 #45

the true narcissist would not have a question mark, lol. ah ha. seabeyond Jan 2012 #46

Psst. Google the name "Tom Ripley." yardwork Jan 2012 #64

bah haha seabeyond Jan 2012 #66

I always wonder how the posters find these threads that match their names. Hilarious! yardwork Jan 2012 #67

I did the Narcissism Quix posted in the article but not just for snagglepuss Jan 2012 #58

didnt look at it. gonna check it out. we have had a thread or two on this seabeyond Jan 2012 #60

Just took that and scored 3. Like I said upthread, I have some issues with self-confidence.. yardwork Jan 2012 #68

Eric Canton has that kind of look Bryn Jan 2012 #94