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60. "29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)"
Sat May 30, 2026, 09:22 PM
16 hrs ago

Abraham was married to his half-sister. In one narrative, he allowed some powerful ruler to take his wife/sister as a wife/concubine because he was afraid the ruler would kill him to possess her if he admitted that they were married.* So, he basically said, "Yeah, take my sister."

Granted, Abraham (supposedly) lived and died in a time before the laws of Leviticus were passed along, but he is considered the Numero Uno Patriarch of Israel.

In another book-- it might have been one of the Samuels-- King David's son, Amnon, has the hots for his half-sister, Tamar.** He arranges for them to be alone together so he can rape her, and she attempts to dissuade him by telling to ask their father to marry her instead.

This does not stop him.

As a young woman reading this particular narrative, I was singularly struck by the verse noting that, (And I am paraphrasing here.), afterwards, "the hatred that he felt for her then was greater than the love*** that he had had for her before." Or, as the Irish saying puts it, "You never hate anyone so much as someone to whom you've done the dirty to."****



* I could look up book, chapter and verse for you, but to quote a British online acquaintance, "I can't be arsed to do so."

** If you are woman who finds herself living in Bible Times, try not to be named Tamar.

*** "Love" is the word that the Biblical text uses; don't come for me over it.

****And this saying is as simplified an explanation for the continued racism in this country against Black people as you are ever going
to find.


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Kick dalton99a Yesterday #1
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She's still polluting the airwaves... 3catwoman3 Yesterday #3
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On SiriusXM and YouTube. SouthBayDem Yesterday #29
Are you telling me ... oldsoldierfadingfast 14 hrs ago #62
All excellent points markie Yesterday #5
Hallelujah! orangecrush Yesterday #7
She's still on? Dulcinea Yesterday #6
It has been so long, so I do not remember the scene completely, but usedtobedemgurl Yesterday #8
The scene in West Wing came later and was taken from the post by Kauffman, which is very old. West Wing took it Amaryllis Yesterday #22
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Schlessinger lies and cheats: dalton99a Yesterday #9
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That was a great episode BonnieJW 7 hrs ago #69
I call the Dr. Laura Schlesinger type of Christian... some_of_us_are_sane Yesterday #11
Thanks! orangecrush Yesterday #12
A quibble: Schlesinger converted to and practices Judaism (since 1998) per Wikipedia harumph Yesterday #14
Even BETTER, harumph! some_of_us_are_sane Yesterday #20
..... wolfie001 4 hrs ago #73
Brilliant! Vinca Yesterday #13
Wasn't she the hypocrite that had naked photos from the 70's resurfaced a couple decades ago? Crowman2009 Yesterday #15
And the photos were taken Wednesdays Yesterday #27
Still not as crazy as when her son thought it would be funny to put a gun in his mouth and take a picture... Crowman2009 6 hrs ago #70
She'd tell parents to call the cops if they found weed in kids bedroom BlueWaveNeverEnd 1 hr ago #75
Yes MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #63
This letter goes back 20+ yrs. Didn't she quit radio or has she passed away? n/t Jacson6 Yesterday #16
According to Wiki orangecrush Yesterday #23
She's still alive MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #65
From the West Wing SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #17
Love that scene!! AZ8theist 13 hrs ago #66
Well done! PatSeg Yesterday #18
This masterful takedown of smug righteousness... 3catwoman3 12 hrs ago #67
Yes,, brilliant writing PatSeg 4 hrs ago #72
She has always been a hypocrite. kellytore Yesterday #19
She was a hypocrite i so many ways! Telling older women "your too old" to have a baby BlueWaveNeverEnd 1 hr ago #74
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She is on Sirius/XM 3Hotdogs Yesterday #24
I was listening to her show many years ago, and a listener called who was estranged from her parents because of a Fil1957 Yesterday #25
Schlesinger hated her mom, didnt speak to her BlueWaveNeverEnd 1 hr ago #76
When Leviticus (Wayyiqra) is mentioned, I'm reminded of that Twilight Zone episode, "To Serve Man"! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Yesterday #28
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Same orangecrush Yesterday #36
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The ones I saw he used a photo of W MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #64
Leviticus bans --- azureblue Yesterday #33
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I do like #66: SCantiGOP 23 hrs ago #44
#41 keroro gunsou 20 hrs ago #53
"29. Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)" Collimator 16 hrs ago #60
Sounds complicated. czarjak 14 hrs ago #61
Clever, but not written by Prof. Kauffman sl8 Yesterday #34
Thanks orangecrush Yesterday #37
Leviticus 18:22? Sounds more like Huckabee 86:47? Submariner Yesterday #35
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Does Ezekiel 23:20 mean we must ban the Bible from public schools? rubbersole 18 hrs ago #55
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Did she respond? Chi67 18 hrs ago #57
The only thing I get out of Lev. 18 is the Levites would fuck anything that moved jmowreader 17 hrs ago #58
An oldie goldie MrsCheaplaugh 17 hrs ago #59
This is an oldie-but-a-goodie. STILL one of the best, IMO. calimary 11 hrs ago #68
Similar scene from The West Wing Captain Stern 5 hrs ago #71
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