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NNadir

(38,671 posts)
41. Both my youngest son and I, white men have experienced it.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 03:54 PM
10 hrs ago

I felt it often as a younger man.

With the deepest respect for Ms. Obama, a great American I disagree. I'm sure many people in her presence felt, but it's not something one expresses.

I recall my son's case very well, when after his freshman year he was sent to France on a NSF grant held by one of his professors, in part because he spoke French, and in part because a more advanced student declined to go.

I informed him when he expressed the point of being an imposter that he really didn't understand why he was there. It wasn't to make a scientific breakthrough on his own, but rather to see how international science works.

Many people feel like imposters when they are promoted to a higher level, particularly in new areas around people with lots of experience in a field. It takes a while to understand that it isn't unusual, even for those of us, white men, who are privileged by absurd convention.

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Perhaps, the White Men don't understand the imposter syndrum. chouchou 12 hrs ago #1
I love Michelle, but yeah... NO. I suffer from that almost every day. Happy Hoosier 12 hrs ago #2
Yes there are non-elite white men malaise 12 hrs ago #6
It was clear H2O Man 11 hrs ago #22
Agree malaise 11 hrs ago #30
Please explain it then, is she only talking the upper crust hoity toity stuff? questionseverything 10 hrs ago #33
"at every powerful table there is" H2O Man 9 hrs ago #59
Respectfully, she sits at the highest table. mr715 9 hrs ago #66
I'm fine with H2O Man 8 hrs ago #68
I assume no one sits near those tables. mr715 8 hrs ago #69
Right. H2O Man 8 hrs ago #75
I'm not understanding something. mr715 8 hrs ago #79
Okay. H2O Man 4 hrs ago #86
Thank you for taking the time to write this reply to help me understand mr715 4 hrs ago #87
Thank you H2O Man 2 hrs ago #88
This is a perfect example of white privilege: Celerity 8 hrs ago #82
That's great H2O Man 7 hrs ago #84
She sat at dinner tables not the meeting table... questionseverything 8 hrs ago #73
Oh H2O Man 8 hrs ago #76
The Obama White House was pretty transparent about what the president and first family were doing questionseverything 8 hrs ago #78
Well yes, she could have. H2O Man 8 hrs ago #81
This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything 8 hrs ago #74
Name one time H2O Man 8 hrs ago #77
I think that you are not alone. I understand what Michrlle means, but wnylib 11 hrs ago #26
ironically in my work -- the imposters never seem to feel like imposters. just arrogant POS JT45242 11 hrs ago #31
Agree that impostors nevrr seem to feel like impostors. wnylib 10 hrs ago #36
Absolutely... furthermore... Happy Hoosier 11 hrs ago #32
But did THEY acknowledge that they were impostors is the question... live love laugh 1 hr ago #90
Totally agree. Michelle may not know many working class white men. johnnyplankton 10 hrs ago #45
You just described me genxlib 9 hrs ago #56
I'm a white man getting a Ph.D. in neurobiology mr715 12 hrs ago #3
Similar here but working in higher level technology OC375 11 hrs ago #25
Just be glad your not a white dumbass, like me! Doodley 8 hrs ago #71
I'm a white dumbass. mr715 8 hrs ago #72
I appreciate her candor MustLoveBeagles 12 hrs ago #4
Funny that it's resulted in some reasoned TheProle 9 hrs ago #53
She needs to meet more people Renew Deal 12 hrs ago #5
I'm black but a disagree. tman 12 hrs ago #7
Trmp at a Mensa meeting would feel that he was among a whole bunch of imposters. nt eppur_se_muova 12 hrs ago #8
Yup. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #9
Right! H2O Man 11 hrs ago #24
Well, she certainly hasn't met everyone. BlueTsunami2018 12 hrs ago #10
Hanks has it because deep down, he knows Peter Scolari was the better actor on "bosom buddies" unblock 11 hrs ago #13
I've seen astronauts discuss it Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #15
"When they go low..." mr715 11 hrs ago #19
during my work years i occasionally felt like i was faking it. rampartd 12 hrs ago #11
So that's what it's called... NewHendoLib 11 hrs ago #12
She doesn't appear to have any close white male friends Bok_Tukalo 11 hrs ago #14
Hi, Mrs. Obama. I'm Aristus. Nice to meet you. I am a great admirer of you and your husband. Aristus 11 hrs ago #16
. mr715 11 hrs ago #18
All those unqualified white morons in the current administration Americanme 11 hrs ago #17
I wish there was a pill? Prairie_Seagull 11 hrs ago #20
Ah, sweet Xanax... mr715 9 hrs ago #60
He may not talk about it, but our so-called President has deep insecurity about not being good enough, good looking Sogo 11 hrs ago #21
And he has never forgiven the New York elites for not malaise 11 hrs ago #28
Exactly. He will never admit to it, but some tiny part of him... 3catwoman3 10 hrs ago #38
Then she should meet me nuxvomica 11 hrs ago #23
Recommended. H2O Man 11 hrs ago #27
I read it Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #35
Thank you. I respect Ms Obama, but this is some tone-deaf shit TheProle 10 hrs ago #42
Oh hell, I'm there Sympthsical 10 hrs ago #44
Kudos on the courage for a career change TheProle 10 hrs ago #47
Congrats. mr715 9 hrs ago #51
No thank you. H2O Man 9 hrs ago #54
retirement freed me from imposter syndrome mike_c 11 hrs ago #29
No offense to her, but I'm guessing she's not really in the same circles as white men who experience imposter syndrome. WhiskeyGrinder 10 hrs ago #34
In creative circles, that's pretty much everyone. C_U_L8R 10 hrs ago #37
It's the difference between being welcome at the table dlk 10 hrs ago #39
I'll admit to the imposter syndrome BeneteauBum 10 hrs ago #40
OK, I looked it up Skittles 10 hrs ago #46
Thanks Skittles BeneteauBum 9 hrs ago #62
yup Skittles 8 hrs ago #83
I wanted to be an estuary ecologist when I was in college. mr715 9 hrs ago #57
It was a rewarding career BeneteauBum 9 hrs ago #65
Both my youngest son and I, white men have experienced it. NNadir 10 hrs ago #41
IIRC, when asked if she was ever intimidated by these meetings, she said, "No, they're not all that smart." OMGWTF 10 hrs ago #43
Maybe Michelle Obama had a different meaning FakeNoose 9 hrs ago #48
I hate to say this: PCIntern 9 hrs ago #49
She hasn't talked to me. Hassler 9 hrs ago #50
Sorry Mrs Obama ironman99 9 hrs ago #52
I think it's very naive to assume it never happens to white men Skittles 9 hrs ago #55
Well, I've never heard a black woman talk about impostor syndrome. Intractable 9 hrs ago #58
That's hyperbolic, and may be true in her experience, but not universally true. Ursus Rex 9 hrs ago #61
Huge gaffe... gulliver 9 hrs ago #63
It's clear MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #64
Sorry, but she needs to get out more. She hasn't heard about imposter syndrome from white men RockRaven 9 hrs ago #67
It's a fact that some white men are more insecure or less fortunate than some black men. Doodley 8 hrs ago #70
I adore her but she's wrong in this. I think most white men suffer from this Iris 8 hrs ago #80
I don't get the furor misanthrope 6 hrs ago #85
*headdesk* Does she even know what it is? sakabatou 2 hrs ago #89
I don't by any means sit at the kind of elite tables she's talking about. Jedi Guy 36 min ago #91
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