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PatSeg

(53,759 posts)
14. Yes
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:37 PM
16 hrs ago

The flaws don't necessarily lie in the constitution, a brilliant document, but the founders could not have anticipated such widespread corruption and dishonesty. I know I couldn't have.

There have been plenty of republican politicians that I have strongly disagreed with as regards policy, but many of them really believed in our constitution and wouldn't have gone along with such in-your-face disregard for our traditions and institutions.

The founders created a remarkable democracy that has been the envy of the free world over the years, but there are 21st century flaws among our voters, the media, and politics that they couldn't have expected. I don't know if we've jumped the shark yet, but I dread reaching a point of no return.

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my same words... markie 18 hrs ago #1
We used to have.people in office who, despite their flaws, wnylib 16 hrs ago #16
I believe that the founders believed the judiciary would remain independent DFW 13 hrs ago #44
Conservatives counted on that belief... GiqueCee 5 hrs ago #55
The current amount of wealth in the USA, dugog55 3 hrs ago #64
Can recall early in his first term that people kept asking whether he would "rise allegorical oracle 4 hrs ago #59
He wouldn't have stayed in office popsdenver 4 hrs ago #60
Ghandi is often cited as a peaceful protestor with peace being how he attained his goals. However, supporters in2herbs 17 hrs ago #2
No Dorian Gray 16 hrs ago #10
Well, let's hope the Congress that convenes after the midterms has one. Otherwise, PatrickforB 15 hrs ago #26
I'm with you. Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #30
Well said popsdenver 4 hrs ago #62
Word! yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #33
Our founding fathers never believed bob4460 17 hrs ago #3
I'm sure the Founding Fathers never considered the possibility that so many elected officials FakeNoose 17 hrs ago #6
The founders believed that Congressmen would zealously safeguard their own power. Intractable 17 hrs ago #7
No, they sold it. Traitors! For the love of money! Sweet Rosie Red 15 hrs ago #24
Who would believe this? yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #34
What is the flaw in the constitution? Disaffected 17 hrs ago #4
Yes PatSeg 16 hrs ago #14
FOX NEWS, RINSE, REPEAT. Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #31
There are fundamental flaws in the constitution Mysterian 14 hrs ago #38
Yeah, I would agree that the electoral college is an anachronism Disaffected 12 hrs ago #46
Yes, I agree PatSeg 3 hrs ago #63
The GOP should homegirl 16 hrs ago #21
The flaw was their belief that congress could not be corrupted Bettie 6 hrs ago #53
The Constitution gives us two ways to remove a president..impeachment and the 25th amendment but.. Deuxcents 17 hrs ago #5
This malaise 16 hrs ago #8
Citizens United created this catastrophe Ponietz 16 hrs ago #9
I think that needs to be the first of several ammendments. Gore1FL 16 hrs ago #13
The Constitution was supposed to be a living document, but the founders never saw the country becoming so large that Karasu 8 hrs ago #51
Yes, that was arguably one of the worst, Disaffected 12 hrs ago #47
SCOTUS needs three impeachment votes as well RainCaster 5 hrs ago #57
Add 4 more justices--make it 13!! Dems should run on it!! (Even if it's hard to do) ! Ars Longa 16 hrs ago #11
More than that RetiredParatrooper 6 hrs ago #52
The constitution isn't the problem. It's a assheads interpreting it. n/t SpankMe 16 hrs ago #12
Or ignoring it PatSeg 16 hrs ago #20
Rage stage left 16 hrs ago #15
It's not The Constitution, it is a spineless Republican Congress and a corrupt LoisB 16 hrs ago #17
It's the Constitution Cirsium 12 hrs ago #49
The 4 states Cirsium 16 hrs ago #18
And these 4 states contribute little to the national economy Blue Owl 12 hrs ago #45
Understood Cirsium 12 hrs ago #48
Kick dalton99a 16 hrs ago #19
It's you'll Republican... richdj25 16 hrs ago #22
Corrupt conservative reprehensible republicans. Festivito 16 hrs ago #23
"A nation that will not enforce its laws has no claim to the respect and allegiance of its people." progressoid 15 hrs ago #25
That's a signature line to keep Ponietz 14 hrs ago #42
Amen to that Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #27
the CRAZY part Skittles 15 hrs ago #28
Sounds like me. OAITW r.2.0 15 hrs ago #29
Me, too. hamsterjill 14 hrs ago #35
Should have been more checks put in place the first time he was elected!!! We dropped the ball!!!! Pisces 15 hrs ago #32
Spectacular own goals for the history books Ponietz 14 hrs ago #43
The English language to the rescue. hay rick 14 hrs ago #36
So True, no matter how hard Cha 14 hrs ago #37
What would have stopped him from becoming President the first time? Jedi Guy 14 hrs ago #39
A better press might have done it. Morbius 14 hrs ago #40
Maybe, I guess. Jedi Guy 14 hrs ago #41
We need constitutional law/civics and mental health/sanity requirements for political candidates. Karasu 9 hrs ago #50
As long as you keep allowing the thing that has constantly created the corruption and degradation... OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #54
If we don't try them, and if we don't hang them, then we're just enabling tyranny to continue or to happen again. Efilroft Sul 5 hrs ago #56
That's because there are over 50. ananda 5 hrs ago #58
That last sentence in the post is so spot on. moreland01 4 hrs ago #61
Protections, protections, and more protections, Magoo48 51 min ago #65
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