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summer_in_TX

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46. Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:44 AM
Yesterday

Those who hear that automatically start worrying more about voter fraud. Our talking about it too reinforces their questions.

The far more effective approach is to ask, "Why is Trump/Republicans so afraid of people voting?" Our questions plant the seeds of doubt.

Anything Trump says about “fighting fraud” should only raise the question of why Trump keeps trying to make it harder for people to vote. It will if we focus on those sorts of questions:

Does Trump not want people to vote?
Is he afraid Republicans are going to lose?
Are Republicans protecting him?
Will Trump be impeached if the Republicans lose control of Congress? (He thinks he will be.)
Is he afraid of being held responsible for whatever he is hiding in the Epstein files?
Is Trump going to end up in jail?
Did Trump get caught trying to steal the 2020 election?
Will Trump try to steal the election again?
Does he think he will get caught if he tries?
Is it easier to suppress votes in large quantities than it is to steal them after the fact?
Is that why he is trying to prevent people from voting in the first place?



REFRAMING AMERICA
Why is Trump so Desperate to Keep Us From Voting?
How to reset the agenda of the election debate.
ANTONIA SCATTON
FEB 18, 2026


She says that rather than ignore or deny that election fraud happens our better strategy is:

Our Narrative

Elections in the U.S. are incredibly difficult to steal, and virtually impossible to steal without getting caught. They are run by states and localities, and there are many safeguards in place, but if you have doubts, you should learn more or even sign up to be election workers or observers and help make our elections more secure.

Rather than just avoiding talk about Trump’s attempt to steal elections, we need to make it clear that yes, people do try to steal elections, but they always get caught. Focus on the mechanisms used to safeguard elections, such as that virtually all vote processing happens under the eye of election judges and observers from both parties, and that election results can be and often are verified by hand counts, either of randomly selected precincts or – if necessary – entire elections.

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Numerous states have been wargaming these scenarios Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #1
I do remember all those. Who doesn't love happy endings? EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #7
I expect the happiest of endings in November Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #9
Let me see if I understand you Cirsium Tuesday #24
Yes, that's it precisely. CivicGrief Tuesday #28
Remember how Rudy publically literally melted mr715 Tuesday #25
Yes. How about when he lay down on a CivicGrief Tuesday #34
Yes I do. mr715 Tuesday #35
"What we're seeing especially in the blue states is fraud, especially in the minority communities." sop Tuesday #2
What is keeping the Dems from coming back with these concrete examples of R senseandsensibility Tuesday #3
What concrete examples? CrispyQ 13 hrs ago #49
Yes but the few that have been documented senseandsensibility 11 hrs ago #55
First tactic: call out Comer's racism. He's not just making up "fraud", he's claiming it's by minorities muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #4
My sign for No Kings will say wnylib Tuesday #11
Racism is Patriotism - for Whites Only erronis Tuesday #12
Today I learned BaronChocula Tuesday #17
Musk, Thiel, Trump, and their whole cabal. wnylib Tuesday #26
Don't forget Rupert Murdoch Seinan Sensei 17 hrs ago #47
As Mikey Said, The Fraud Is So Diabolical That Proof Is .... ColoringFool Tuesday #5
Yes I called him out on that yesterday senseandsensibility Tuesday #6
That's the same argument theists use when questioned about proof of god. erronis Tuesday #29
Sorry, but claiming fraud does not win anything for Republicans Wiz Imp Tuesday #8
It buys a little bit more loyalty from low-information voters dickthegrouch Tuesday #13
Yup BaronChocula Tuesday #18
With a simple, consistent message coordinated by all Democrats so it's repeated in the media, people we get it! Chasstev365 Tuesday #10
Normalize False Accusations of Voter Fraud 2na fisherman Tuesday #14
Yes, senseandsensibility Tuesday #31
Should capital punishment be considered as a penalty for outright political lies? liberalgunwilltravel Tuesday #15
No, we are not barbarians Dave says Tuesday #38
They are setting up to not swear in Figarosmom Tuesday #16
That's what I believe Dave says Tuesday #39
Bush v. Gore Redux 2na fisherman Tuesday #41
Comer and his brother supposedly committed property transfer fraud. ChicagoTeamster Tuesday #19
Hammer on the fact that they're lying and refute it again and again MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #20
Yes! senseandsensibility Tuesday #33
Unfortunately true. calimary Tuesday #37
South Korea orangecrush Tuesday #21
When Chump says the same thing with impunity (other than Kristen Welker calling him a liar) FakeNoose Tuesday #22
liar liar pants on fire tsktsk 12 hrs ago #53
When I saw that after the L.A. mayoral primary was lost by Pratt, I KNEW this going to happen in the mid terms. C Moon Tuesday #23
California is the stupidest idea Mad_Machine76 Tuesday #40
Charles Foster Kane school of politics. usonian Tuesday #27
Yep. This is their strategy. kentuck Tuesday #30
Clever and original they are not senseandsensibility Tuesday #32
It is interesting that the same guys that promoted the Big Lie in 2020 are doing it again... kentuck Tuesday #42
It's easy to tell when it's bullshit moose65 Tuesday #36
Of course. Fraud! Fraudy fraudy fraud! How do we know? "Everyone knows!" Karasu Tuesday #43
Every time a national Republican 'politician' opens their mouth, it is to spit out a LIE, Jack Valentino Tuesday #44
Projection on overdrive. The whole f'ing R KPN Yesterday #45
Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud. summer_in_TX Yesterday #46
Not everything is verified by hand count, hand counts are illegal in Florida questionseverything 13 hrs ago #52
They are lying, racist pieces of shit. LuvLoogie 11 hrs ago #54
MAGAts have no imagination. Always the same pathetic shit. Martin68 14 hrs ago #48
I hate this piece of shite. Blockhead. King_Klonopin 13 hrs ago #50
K&R red dog 1 13 hrs ago #51
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