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Torchlight

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7. Putin has tied his political legitimacy to this war he created

Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:43 PM

Jun 10

I think at this point, the cost of the casualties lag far behind the cost of consequence should he being to draw down. I gave up my last hopes last summer that Putin would make a rational, though humiliating decision and save what's left of his army when he decided 75,000 casualties justified a 5 sq. mile advance into territory presenting him zero additional advantages or benefits.

I'm beginning to believe that outside a military catastrophe, only the popular will of the Russian citizenry will eventually see Moscow stand down. If he withdraws, or even moves the goalposts again on his definition of victory, he's a dead man (politically, if not otherwise) and I think he's fully aware of that.

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I'm the Foreign Minister of Sweden. Don't Overestimate Russia. [View all] marble falls Jun 10 OP

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 10 #1

If he does that before the election, he'll see his supporters in the US government lose in a wholesale loss ... marble falls Jun 10 #2

I agree. H2O Man Jun 10 #3

So Diaper Don is following his mentor's lead in grossly exagerrating the economy's success? johnnyplankton Jun 10 #4

He was not sharp enough to figure it out by himself. marble falls Jun 10 #5

I don't know. Apparently he was one of the few people who knew that "dumb" was spelled with a "B" johnnyplankton Jun 10 #20

Remind me again... BurnDoubt Jun 10 #6

Arbitage is the name of the game. A nation of speculating day traders. marble falls Jun 10 #8

Putin has tied his political legitimacy to this war he created Torchlight Jun 10 #7

In the late 60s, after Walter Cronkite said he saw no way to "victory" for the US in Viet Nam ... marble falls Jun 10 #9

As soon as the population runs out of multigraincracker Jun 10 #17

kicked. AllaN01Bear Jun 10 #10

But but but... MoseShrute Jun 10 #11

Then what's holding the little twit from packing up and moving there? marble falls Jun 10 #12

The reality that he doesn't want to live there. mr715 Jun 10 #21

None of these Putiniks want to go except for asswipes like Stevie Segal, Edward Snowdon, Grard Depardieu (who ... marble falls Jun 10 #22

I'm sure you read the story of the Texas family... mr715 Jun 10 #24

An Austin guy in his 60s went and joined the Russian Army. He was involved in several actions - shot at and shot back .. marble falls Jun 10 #28

They are also often criminals or ill mr715 Jun 10 #29

He's a crazy fox. He released 10,000s of prisoners and they went directly into the meat grinder that made 30,000 ... marble falls Jun 10 #31

This is the family i'm talking about: mr715 Jun 10 #30

This is the guy I'm talking about ... marble falls Jun 10 #32

That is grotesque on so many levels. nt mr715 Jun 10 #33

Looks like a plumper me when I was his age. I identify with a lot of his life. Not the Russian part. I was in the ... marble falls Jun 10 #34

Putin is obsessed. Ukraine is his white whale. tblue37 Jun 10 #13

I always felt Putin was smart but depended on being cunning. How did he wrap around the axle of Ukraine? ... marble falls Jun 10 #15

I listen to Dr. Anna Danylchuk's daily vlog, "Anna From Ukraine". She niyad Jun 10 #14

6 Billion Rubles is $14 mr715 Jun 10 #23

My error. Six TRILLION, about 100 dollars. .She says "roubles niyad Jun 10 #25

Well, that is indeed a bit of cash... mr715 Jun 10 #26

It's what brought down the Soviet Union BaronChocula Jun 10 #16

Reagan challenged Russia to an arms war their economy couldn't handle. That's how Ronnie got them to Helsinki ... marble falls Jun 10 #19

in short, fuck the russian government RT Atlanta Jun 10 #18

Putins greatest achievement is not mucifer Jun 10 #27

The devils biggest trick ... marble falls Jun 10 #35