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leftynyc

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173. Who wants to pay higher taxes?

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:42 PM

Jan 2013

The answer is nobody. Now let's discuss the actual issue - the monstrosity that is our tax code which allows the wealthy to pay a much lower effective tax rate than everyone else which is most certainly NOT THEIR FAIR SHARE. Is that too complicated for you? The difference between the parties is that one wants to make things ACTUALLY FAIR and the other wants to make it more inequitable.

It doesn't seem like a difficult concept but you righties just repeat whatever moronic theory rush, sean or oreilly have that day - you're tiresome and while I know it's hard to get your asses kicked like you did on election day, try using your brain once in a while. I promise it'll only hurt a little. Or you can continue voting against your own interests cuz rush told you to.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] NCTraveler Jan 2013 OP

The temporary 2% payroll tax cut expired. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #1

yep Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #8

It should have never been done in the first place. It hurt social security /nt still_one Jan 2013 #79

Not true. FICA (Social Security) taxes go into the general fund. the botnet Jan 2013 #138

Well, at least we don't have to guess about your intelligence. ret5hd Jan 2013 #143

... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #146

That is blatantly not true. RC Jan 2013 #148

Not Bush, but Obama Soft Tips Jan 2013 #178

Holiday and trust fund fingusernames Jan 2013 #193

Who is pretending? AllyCat Jan 2013 #156

"The payroll tax income itself goes into the General Fund" the botnet Jan 2013 #174

Your link quotes the Heritage Foundation. Liberal In Texas Jan 2013 #213

It was called a 2% tax holiday and it just expired. You are now paying what you were.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #2

It went back to what it was 2 years ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #3

Thank you all for the answers. nt NCTraveler Jan 2013 #4

This is what you pay so that you can receive a semi-decent social security payment at retirement. dkf Jan 2013 #5

No atreides1 Jan 2013 #7

Chaining the CPI has no impact on your initial payment. dkf Jan 2013 #18

Really, so initial payments increase with the CPI and we Progressive dog Jan 2013 #33

The initial payments have been the same percentage of your income since 1990. Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #132

Chained CPI will affect initial payments because they too will not go up with the generally JDPriestly Jan 2013 #83

They use the average wage index to calculate your initial payments, not CPI or chained CPI. dkf Jan 2013 #175

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Freepers are simply brain dead morons leftynyc Jan 2013 #123

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No - fantasy world leftynyc Jan 2013 #129

"putting tax cuts on a credit card" Soft Tips Jan 2013 #181

iraq was bush's disaster, but afghanistan is someone else's owenmagoo Jan 2013 #183

Temp decrease for employee contribution, 6.2% to 4.2%, expired. Returned to previous rate. pinto Jan 2013 #6

Thank you for the excellent information. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #12

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #25

No limit on Medicare tax? tularetom Jan 2013 #61

I'm sick of them avoiding their fair share uhlerster Jan 2013 #97

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #111

Huh?? titaniumsalute Jan 2013 #125

Another asshole freeper leftynyc Jan 2013 #127

It's not what he did but the hypocrisy behind it Earthworm Jan 2013 #159

Yet, I bet you are one that complains whenever your car hits a pothole. Live and Learn Jan 2013 #165

Who wants to pay higher taxes? leftynyc Jan 2013 #173

I see no credible source for that information. Live and Learn Jan 2013 #162

No, no limit on Medicare taxable wages REACTIVATED IN CT Jan 2013 #194

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That break was one of the only stimulus options Obama had left two years ago. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #9

Illinois fingusernames Jan 2013 #196

As always, state tax issues are state tax issues. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #197

Just so you know, Obama and many Democrats wanted to keep the lower SS withholdings. denverbill Jan 2013 #10

I don't want the lower withholdings. I paid the higher taxes and am now on Social Security. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #84

Because the "holiday" was speeding up SS's path to bankruptcy. travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #112

+1. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #147

Wouldn't doing that underfund Social Security? Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #118

Yes, and that was the point. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #180

Repugs want to kill off the fund? Really? Ratteau Jan 2013 #185

Indeed fingusernames Jan 2013 #195

But hey, everybody says it's a good thing! Bake Jan 2013 #11

I really can't handle the decrease right now. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #13

The works of tearorists in the house, once more. nt Amonester Jan 2013 #15

2% smaller.... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #26

I don't want to make light of this situation, but the increase oin deductions is 2%! napi21 Jan 2013 #32

Pretty sizable chunk of change. Almost a weeks worth of groceries. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #40

Did you vote for the Ryan plan to preserve SS? travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #113

"hurtling even faster towards bankruptcy " NCTraveler Jan 2013 #119

Why is that funny? travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #122

That is nothing but a wore out rw meme. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #135

Not only an ignorant notion... skinnydipinacid Jan 2013 #160

Cute Travis, cute. Have a nice day. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #171

The Debt-Paying Generation Speaks Soft Tips Jan 2013 #186

It shouldn't impact each paycheck that much - Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #133

That is $46 a month. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #134

I was just trying to figure out your time frame. Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #151

Payroll is taxed on the day the check is written. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #168

Makes sense. Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #177

Wanted to add. I do see what you are saying. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #172

Not to mention the prices are higher than two years ago for a variety of goods Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #139

Its $1000 a year if you make $50,000. former9thward Jan 2013 #50

It's not a lot SoCalNative Jan 2013 #68

This had nothing to do with collecting SS when you retire. former9thward Jan 2013 #166

That would be nice... Ratteau Jan 2013 #187

That's about $20/week. It's nothing to sneeze at, but napi21 Jan 2013 #71

$1000 divided by 52 weeks is about $20 per week. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #86

$86 a month is a lot. That would pay for.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #94

It isn't a pittance, but someone earning $50,000 per year is doing a lot better JDPriestly Jan 2013 #99

I know I would like to get a 2% raise d_r Jan 2013 #101

I feel your pain and will be soon when I get my check Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #124

If it makes you feel any better dragonlady Jan 2013 #22

Remind me of the Republican proposal to extend the temporary 2% reduction jberryhill Jan 2013 #28

Wait, I thought that tax cuts were eeeevil! travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #114

Actually, you are quite wrong, doubly wrong even. Coyotl Jan 2013 #145

Looks like someone didn't prepare. What about temporary holiday didn't you understand? lonestarnot Jan 2013 #14

Guessing this is sarcasm. Normally I can easily detect it. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #17

Probably not sarcasm. The holiday was only two years. ieoeja Jan 2013 #24

Amen... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #27

Were any other cuts set to expire. So no, it wasn't expected. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #41

Yes, all of the Bush tax cuts were set to expire travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #116

But should I have expected them to expire and planned on it. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #121

You will find little sympathy here, it is less a trait these days of the left Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #142

I won't be happy taking less money home. LWolf Jan 2013 #16

I hope in the end it all works out for you. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #19

Thanks for the good thoughts. nt LWolf Jan 2013 #169

That is one awful story. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #30

I do, too. Thanks. nt LWolf Jan 2013 #170

If you keep voting for policies that harm business... travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #117

Oh look, we have a "success punisher" belcher. HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #131

I vote for policies that hurt RW douchebags jpak Jan 2013 #137

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Go fuck yourself, freeper ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #150

"Voting for policies that harm business." LWolf Jan 2013 #167

Its OK ORINOCO Jan 2013 #20

Welcome to DU! Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #37

LOL leftstreet Jan 2013 #46

If the tearorists succeeded to make you struggle too much, maybe DUers could... Amonester Jan 2013 #21

Actually if that cut continued it would change the very nature of Social Security.. madfloridian Jan 2013 #23

Just to be clear, the holiday actually decreased SS taxes to 10.4% from 12.4% AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #51

It's worth it for the cause. madfloridian Jan 2013 #100

Worth it? I don't know. PETRUS Jan 2013 #102

Thank you wryter2000 Jan 2013 #59

You were on holiday Warpy Jan 2013 #29

Thanks for the reasoned reply. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #42

Don't worry about it. It's not really a tax. slackmaster Jan 2013 #31

OK ... I get your right wing gun philosophy .... Trajan Jan 2013 #58

Whuh? slackmaster Jan 2013 #144

im confused OhZone Jan 2013 #34

Yes, I do have a check for this month. By tomorrow, everyone paid weekly will. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #43

I have scant experience with 'weekly payroll' jobs. So please explain how and why you are paid Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #155

why did they deduct more onethatcares Jan 2013 #35

Any IRS changes are effective with "wages paid in 2013" Freddie Jan 2013 #36

Regardless of any bill passage, the holiday expired Dec 31st geek_sabre Jan 2013 #95

If you got a check dated Jan. 2 Freddie Jan 2013 #105

Does anyone think congress will extend the payroll tax holiday at some point? ecstatic Jan 2013 #38

It is more than I was expecting. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #44

At the end most Democrats and Republicans wanted it to expire, only President Obama was PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #76

A Good Start New Proletariat Jan 2013 #39

Welcome to DU. :) Amonester Jan 2013 #45

so you are advocating an offensive war bigapple1963 Jan 2013 #48

No. Amonester Jan 2013 #60

I don't think New Proletariat will be around DU DonViejo Jan 2013 #49

Interesting... New Proletariat Jan 2013 #77

Not a threat at all... DonViejo Jan 2013 #130

So, are you taking any bets?.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #53

Not taking any bets.... New Proletariat Jan 2013 #70

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if everyone received the same blcartwright Jan 2013 #73

I guess we should just let the people who can't find work starve or die of exposure. hunter Jan 2013 #75

the point was blcartwright Jan 2013 #81

It's my experience that most people want to work. hunter Jan 2013 #90

I agree blcartwright Jan 2013 #104

Time Well Spent ReasonedThoughts Jan 2013 #191

Every last person does have the ability to say "Take this job and shove it" FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #107

25 years ago when I moved to the DC area blcartwright Jan 2013 #108

Inheritance tax? New Proletariat Jan 2013 #78

I don't think so blcartwright Jan 2013 #87

Isn't it fun when they talk to themselves? dpibel Jan 2013 #89

Who left the freakin' door open? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #154

Had to pay for permanent taxcuts for rich professionals somehow. kenny blankenship Jan 2013 #47

Well said customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #55

What on Earth are you talking about? travis_mcgee Jan 2013 #126

That seems odd. Wouldn't a paycheck received right now magical thyme Jan 2013 #52

No. The date on the check is what matters. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #56

even so, it's hard to believe it's that big a change magical thyme Jan 2013 #57

$24 a month might not be grocery money to you. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #62

It's that much less that the deficit goes up for Social Security customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #54

Nothing, it's just a dream ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #63

How did you get your first 2013 paycheck on Thursday, January 3rd? jberryhill Jan 2013 #64

The Date on the Check Is What Matters chrisau214 Jan 2013 #69

That is simply not true. Tax rates are counted from the time and place you did the work, not Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #157

money show up in ym bank abt 7 am tomorrow blcartwright Jan 2013 #74

How often are you paid? dflprincess Jan 2013 #80

paid every two weeks blcartwright Jan 2013 #85

Did you check the math? dflprincess Jan 2013 #92

the math for my SS deduction? blcartwright Jan 2013 #98

I lose around $80 a month, but I know the Riley18 Jan 2013 #65

You will be thankful when you retire and receive your social security checks. RebelOne Jan 2013 #67

I'm 37 LoneMarauder Jan 2013 #91

If you people keep helping to elect republicans that is almost guaranteed. Little Star Jan 2013 #176

See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #72

You are being asked to pay the Social Security tax that you used to pay before Obama JDPriestly Jan 2013 #82

For all those bitching and whining about the 2% doc03 Jan 2013 #88

Don't give them the oportunity... New Proletariat Jan 2013 #93

I am just so disgusted I can't even make any more comments n/t doc03 Jan 2013 #96

Welcome to DU! stoopid hurtz i hurd /no further text follows after this period. green for victory Jan 2013 #103

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All this bitching and whining is why this tax holiday was the dumbest idea, period. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #158

You are supposed to SAVE that $$ for your retirement. Not spend it RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #106

Hey, National Review linked your post Shrek Jan 2013 #109

It's probably their OP RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #115

Please see post #149 CJCRANE Jan 2013 #153

Same here, I will find out on the 15th, not looking forward to it. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #120

The Delicate Flowers cannot bear to pay for Social Security jpak Jan 2013 #136

I am a food stamp and medicaid caseworker Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #140

I think it didn't hurt people before the temporary tax holiday was enacted jpak Jan 2013 #141

Your OP seemed just a little too faux-naif so I searched the archives CJCRANE Jan 2013 #149

Good catch! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #152

Nice try, troll. MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #161

Buck up! Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #163

For some of us that is in 30+ years AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #189

Thread title is attracting a lot of Freeper drive-byes Ash_F Jan 2013 #164

Money owed to the Social Security Trust donbrown54 Jan 2013 #179

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Elvis has left the building. n/t L0oniX Jan 2013 #184

RUSH LIMBAUGH just read this letter on air BanTheGOP Jan 2013 #188

They are so pathetically desperate that their traditional hate sites Rex Jan 2013 #200

Your takehome pay should be 2% less, in general REACTIVATED IN CT Jan 2013 #190

BTW, I wonder how many people know that a total of 12.4% of their income goes toward SS AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #192

0. What happened that my SS withholdings in my paycheck just went up. Juan Nation Jan 2013 #199

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And who put them in debt? Republicans. Rex Jan 2013 #211

They are withholding a dollar more per paycheck for me Rex Jan 2013 #202

You worked ONE-TWO day this year and your paycheck went down by an uncomfortable amount? GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #203

I like your bullshitometer! Rex Jan 2013 #205

I just got my first fortnightly paycheck for 2013. It's $113.08 less than my previous paycheck. slackmaster Jan 2013 #204

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fsdasadf Juan Nation Jan 2013 #210

How did you find this site? Rex Jan 2013 #212