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Prairie Gates

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21. The Iranians were right to seek it

Wed Jun 17, 2026, 08:38 AM

11 hrs ago

The attack on the girls school killed more people than the Oklahoma City bombing. It was a world historical terrorist attack.

The 40 year rhetoric of Iranian "proxy" terrorists have been given the lie by Israel's genocide in Gaza and iits aggressive wars against its neighbors, including Lebanon, where Hezbollah very much seems to be the only line of resistance against Israeli colonization south of the Litani.

I have no doubt that the Revolutionary Guard and Iranian hardliners are bad, but all the assumptions about the region have to be rethought in light of Israel's behaviors as an aggressive and expansionist state, which the US then supported in the bombing of Iran. Why shouldn't they get sanctions relief and reparations? Because they're the bad guys?

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Full Text of the 14 point agreement with Iran [View all] Johnny2X2X 12 hrs ago OP

It's insane Johnny2X2X 12 hrs ago #1

Appreciations (and) wyn borkins 12 hrs ago #5

I like "The Islamic Republic of Iran REITERATES that it will never produce nuclear weapons" Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #11

Yes, total victory for Iran, far better than Obama's deal. As I posted elsewhere, one meme sums it up... thesquanderer 10 hrs ago #28

IANAL but I read a lot of contracts. This feels like the first draft was written by the Iranians. CincyDem 12 hrs ago #2

Or maybe written by Putin. (n/t) thesquanderer 10 hrs ago #33

An absolute complete capitulation. Unbelievable! boston bean 12 hrs ago #3

Remember how big a sticking point the sanctions were in Obama's deal Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #7

It wasn't Obama's deal, stop laying the JPCOA solely on him gab13by13 11 hrs ago #14

Either way Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #16

Why always 14 points and will the Senate reject them as they did for Woodrow Wilson? Ponietz 12 hrs ago #4

WTAF!!! Phoenix61 11 hrs ago #6

Simply stunning Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #9

How can the US speak for the UNSC and the IAEA? maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #68

This is not good for Israel, and it is Netanyahu's own fault. everyonematters 11 hrs ago #8

The Iran hawks are going to lose their minds Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #10

It's so bad it's embarrassing Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #12

The Iranians were right to seek it Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #21

I read #1 and quit reading the rest gab13by13 11 hrs ago #13

Trump talking out his ass again Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #15

The ONLY reason the U.S. agreed to this completely one-sided MOU YodaMom2 7 hrs ago #57

Probably true Johnny2X2X 7 hrs ago #61

When Iran says USA, does it include Isreal? Those bombs say USA on them. dem4decades 10 hrs ago #37

Hello, gab13by13 11 hrs ago #17

Yeah, who is going to pay Farmer-Rick 10 hrs ago #31

Lokk in the mirror, it's you and me. dem4decades 10 hrs ago #39

Exactly Farmer-Rick 9 hrs ago #46

the 300b is "financing". maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #70

Here's a link to the full text: EarlG 11 hrs ago #18

I guarantee that Iran isn't going to allow ships to pass through Hormuz without its permission. gab13by13 11 hrs ago #19

Tells me Iran was dug in and ready to continue as is indefinitely Johnny2X2X 11 hrs ago #20

Bingo, gab13by13 10 hrs ago #25

Heads I win, tails you lose. jeffreyi 10 hrs ago #22

I think it's so bad because Trump wants to punish the world Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #24

IMO, this agreement to negotiate later gab13by13 10 hrs ago #23

Not even sure that will work Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #26

What are the specifics people want added? Orangenero 10 hrs ago #27

Inspectors for 1 Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #29

The very 1st point, the ending of the war in Lebanon gab13by13 10 hrs ago #32

Could be something to that Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #36

The Gulf States were big losers also gab13by13 10 hrs ago #30

I wonder if Qatar will ask for the return of their oversized jet? RainCaster 10 hrs ago #35

This is the most flaccid agreement I've ever seen RainCaster 10 hrs ago #34

The ONLY white flag in this, belongs to the US! 70sEraVet 10 hrs ago #38

To summarize: SamuelAdams 9 hrs ago #40

Yeah and whats this "Investing in Iran" BS I keep reading? Trump going to build hotels there Bengus81 9 hrs ago #42

Sanctions relief includes 24 billion dollars of frozen Iranian money gab13by13 9 hrs ago #44

Getting a load of shrink wrap ready for those pallets of CASH Trump? Bengus81 9 hrs ago #41

'Produce' is not the same as 'Buy', 'Acquire', 'Trade for' Scalded Nun 9 hrs ago #43

Seems like a good deal for Iran Deminpenn 7 hrs ago #58

Nowhere is an inspection regime mentioned... appmanga 9 hrs ago #45

I cant see Congress agreeing to 300 billion Johonny 9 hrs ago #47

Is this a joke? This has to be a joke.... Ol Janx Spirit 9 hrs ago #48

It may be built to fail Johnny2X2X 9 hrs ago #49

That's entirely plausible--and Occam's Razor would also say yes.... Ol Janx Spirit 8 hrs ago #53

Point 1... Bibi says no and continues to bomb Lebanon mountain grammy 9 hrs ago #50

And one of Iran's strategic moves comes to fruition... paleotn 7 hrs ago #55

Netanyahu's forces in Lebanon are getting so lit up by the fiber optic drones Prairie Gates 7 hrs ago #59

I hope so.. mountain grammy 7 hrs ago #60

Israel is not a signatory to this, even though they were one of the parties that launched the war. Nevertheless... Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #51

Yeah Johnny2X2X 8 hrs ago #52

Art of the Deal? More like a Squeal. Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #54

Slightly conditional surrender to Iran Progressive dog 7 hrs ago #56

You remember Trump's demand for unconditional surrender? Sure looks like conditions apply. tclambert 7 hrs ago #62

Point #1 will be violated by Netanyahu within the week by attacking Lebanon. Just watch. Wednesdays 7 hrs ago #63

donnie, the toddler, got his ass handed to him. republianmushroom 6 hrs ago #64

Where's the part that says Iran gives Trump a trophy for most bestest peacemaker? tclambert 6 hrs ago #65

Totally nailed down that coveted Islamic Republican Guard Peace Prize Johnny2X2X 5 hrs ago #67

The MOU is mainly saying they will talk LogDog75 5 hrs ago #66

LOL, the administration panicked and released the exact same 14 points with a few sentences added to try to make it look Johnny2X2X 4 hrs ago #69

But it's actually worse! Johnny2X2X 4 hrs ago #71

This will be scuttled before it's signed. cab67 2 hrs ago #72

AI analysis- Obama deal vs Trump deal TalenaGor 2 hrs ago #73

I never want to hear again... COL Mustard 11 min ago #74