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43. A great movie- I doubt it would be made today, given the kow-towing to Trump

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Sun Jun 21, 2026, 12:04 PM

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Hackman and Dafoe made it look so easy. A masterclass.

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The Guardian nails it: White working class votes for white supremacists. Period. [View all] AverageOldGuy 5 hrs ago OP

Kick dalton99a 5 hrs ago #1

Thank you for posting this. It's the plain truth. n/t Mister Ed 5 hrs ago #2

The American Civil War NEVER ENDED. NoMoreRepugs 5 hrs ago #3

Yup. Ocelot II 5 hrs ago #4

White Working Class includes a lot of others now--given the devastating economy-- so... hlthe2b 5 hrs ago #5

It's a long article, worth the read. yardwork 3 hrs ago #44

I agree that it is about racism, but economics are also a factor. wnylib 2 hrs ago #67

Democrats did lose 30% of the young, male, black vote. questionseverything 1 hr ago #70

In part because Democrats are now defending gay and trans people. Wednesdays 57 min ago #84

I venture to guess many/most DUers are "working class" and a lot are White. Are they all to be lumped in hlthe2b 31 min ago #88

In a sense, "access to power over other racial groups" is still viewed by lower class whites as an economic advantage. sop 5 hrs ago #6

+1 dalton99a 5 hrs ago #11

Great OP malaise 5 hrs ago #7

"I may get screwed over, but the Other, the 'They', they get screwed over even more." ck4829 5 hrs ago #8

I'm white working class. I am not MAGA! I am not racist! Please stop stereotyping. Doodley 5 hrs ago #9

You're right. It would be more accurate to add the modifier "some" before "white working class." sop 5 hrs ago #13

I live in a "working class" neighborhood in metro Detroit. Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #22

+1 Auggie 4 hrs ago #32

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork 3 hrs ago #45

Geez. Nobody is stereotyping. yardwork 3 hrs ago #46

Not sure that "strong majority" of white working class still holds true. Not all white working class KPN 2 hrs ago #65

I don't know a single Trump voter who says they regret their vote. yardwork 1 hr ago #77

We cannot discuss race without someone being offended Keepthesoulalive 3 hrs ago #49

As a white person I just don't understand the defensiveness. yardwork 3 hrs ago #60

Race is an uncomfortable subject Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #64

A lot of Americans cling to our mythology. yardwork 1 hr ago #73

I'm white working-class male and I Dr. T 3 hrs ago #51

Good for you Cirsium 1 hr ago #76

Spot on ABC123Easy 5 hrs ago #10

Bill Clinton had a chance to change this when he was in the White House FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #12

I can remember a picture of Clinton & Gore with a credit-card type card that would be your access card to Universal NBachers 4 hrs ago #27

Yeah, Clinton's eight years of peace and prosperity comradebillyboy 3 hrs ago #38

If not President Clinton MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #78

That's not what I implied, but thanks for sharing your thoughts FakeNoose 39 min ago #87

The majority of white people have voted republican since LBJ Keepthesoulalive 3 hrs ago #39

They started leaving way before Bill Clinion DFW 3 hrs ago #40

LBJ knew he was going to lose the southern racists by signing the Civil Rights Act FakeNoose 27 min ago #89

Read the essay linked in the OP. yardwork 3 hrs ago #47

No. White working class left in post-civil rights era after the two parties diverged on race, cultural changes. betsuni 3 hrs ago #55

Fox News and hate radio push a steady diet of anti-Black, anti-immigrant messaging. yardwork 3 hrs ago #58

At the gym yesterday .. justsomeguy01 2 hrs ago #62

From the Right: "liberals hate white people," other direction: "Dem establishment ignores white working class betsuni 2 hrs ago #66

Not true Cirsium 1 hr ago #75

While often true, it's not a universal, absolute truth Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #14

But will they continue to vote for the party of progress Keepthesoulalive 1 hr ago #68

The paradigm has shifted Fiendish Thingy 49 min ago #86

I wish I could share your enthusiasm Keepthesoulalive 14 min ago #91

They will control the House for a generation. mr715 10 min ago #94

I think it is important to note that West Virginia mr715 14 min ago #92

But why Keepthesoulalive 11 min ago #93

White, working class voters. mr715 3 min ago #95

Worth reading, and here's the money shot... TygrBright 5 hrs ago #15

When I hear him say make Americkkka great again it's really make racism great again! kimbutgar 4 hrs ago #16

great read. mopinko 4 hrs ago #17

I worked in Greenville MS back in 1989 when Boeing had a plant there KS Toronado 4 hrs ago #18

There is in group discussion Keepthesoulalive 3 hrs ago #59

Really wish more on DU would understand this reality. rogue emissary 4 hrs ago #19

It's a shallow combination of ownership within class identity and fear of unknown competition haele 3 hrs ago #50

Yes, artificial and unnecessary division based on falsehood that Democrats "ignore the working class." betsuni 1 hr ago #71

And these beliefs and preferences are very difficult to counter, even with the "right messaging" Redleg 4 hrs ago #20

The story of the white sharecropper poisoning his black sharecropper neighbor's mule come to mind. Squaredeal 4 hrs ago #21

Jeezus. Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill 4 hrs ago #25

Republicans understand this. SamuelAdams 4 hrs ago #23

dumb, dumber, dumbest Joinfortmill 4 hrs ago #24

I think they need somebody to look down on. zanana1 4 hrs ago #26

I wonder if there's not some of that going on with "us" TheProle 3 hrs ago #57

Sounds like the older part of my family....MAGATs all BeneteauBum 4 hrs ago #28

This is a "duh" headline..white working class vote their hate for "the other"... agingdem 4 hrs ago #29

Not really "duh" since we aren't used to seeing this from the media, at least in the U.S. Redleg 4 hrs ago #30

The Guardian is British paper...our papers/MSM are so terrified of MAGA agingdem 4 hrs ago #35

... Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #31

Worked in an auto plant just West of Detroit. multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #33

We need to go back to colorblind (if we still can) gulliver 4 hrs ago #34

Yes, this is central to understanding the American project and why it has failed. nt Blasphemer 4 hrs ago #36

"Mississippi Burning" duckworth969 3 hrs ago #37

A great movie- I doubt it would be made today, given the kow-towing to Trump Redleg 3 hrs ago #43

It's because of racism we can't have the nice things that folks have in other rich countries. Fil1957 3 hrs ago #41

And yet...guys like Graham Platner, Zohran Mamdani, Abdul El Sayed biocube 3 hrs ago #42

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And what about brown men with "foreign-sounding names" like Mamdani and El Sayed? biocube 3 hrs ago #54

American Arabs are white adjacent in the minds of many. yardwork 3 hrs ago #56

That's just great. MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #82

What rhetoric is Platner using that signals he is a racist? I find your attack on him to be problematic at best. He is Celerity 15 min ago #90

What is the point? Cirsium 1 hr ago #79

Ive pushed back on this for decades Cosmocat 3 hrs ago #52

yes, like Black people have known since forever yobrault1 3 hrs ago #53

While I agree to a point, but it's waaay more complicated than that. paleotn 2 hrs ago #61

We enable that to happen, by ... Bluetus 2 hrs ago #63

Noooooo! We Just Need To UNDERSTAND THEM! TALK With Them! Really.....! ColoringFool 1 hr ago #69

I live in Pennsylvania and I know plenty of people like that. Alice B. 1 hr ago #72

I grew up in rural Ohio and I hear it often from people I grew up with. yardwork 1 hr ago #74

People start framing things like, the "Obama Library" MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #83

Which is why we will never see a black Republican presidential nominee in our lifetimes. Wednesdays 1 hr ago #80

Saida Grundy nails it Cirsium 1 hr ago #81

The ruling class uses racism orthoclad 57 min ago #85