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Ilikepurple

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25. This is still just an opinion and one that doesn't carry the force of law if the Supreme Court decides otherwise.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 05:03 PM
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The full text of the phrase is “ All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” I agree with your interpretation, but the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is included for some reason. Maybe just to exclude children of occupying forces, foreign diplomats, or native Americans living as tribal members? If it was that clear, we wouldn’t have needed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 to get US tribal members citizenship.

You may have an argument as to why the Supreme Court should not be able to decide what the Constitution says in all cases, but that is the system we’ve pretty much had in place since Marbury v. Madison. If you want to argue that there must be a mechanism for policing the opinion of the Supreme Court other than impeachment and conviction of its offending members and without constitutional amendment, you’ll have to have both a legal and practical argument formulated beyond your insistence that what you believe is the way the world is.

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Kavanaugh doesn't understand the constitution DemocracyForever Wednesday #1
Or he was trying to give trump Figarosmom Wednesday #2
Congressional law can never override the constitution DemocracyForever Wednesday #3
They can always pass a law to give the Supreme Court another shot to get it "right". Ilikepurple Wednesday #8
It would need to be a legal move DemocracyForever Thursday #13
I never said reconsider the case. An actual law could be rightly challenged and reach the Supreme Court. Ilikepurple Thursday #14
Again, Congressional law can't override the constitution. DemocracyForever Thursday #17
What would you be saying if the numbers for this case were reversed? Ilikepurple Thursday #20
The 14th amendment is clear DemocracyForever Friday #21
This is still just an opinion and one that doesn't carry the force of law if the Supreme Court decides otherwise. Ilikepurple Friday #25
It's called actual facts DemocracyForever 15 hrs ago #31
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"All persons" is clear DemocracyForever Friday #22
Four of the people who we have charged with deciding what the constitution means disagree with you. Ms. Toad Friday #23
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Are you saying the children of foreign diplomats Ms. Toad Friday #28
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