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reACTIONary

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24. Would you say paying government employees a wage...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 09:42 PM
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... is paying them a "socialist wage"? I'm not sure why paying anybody, in kind or in money, by anyone, government or private employers, in exchange for doing useful work in a market economy can be considered "socialist".

I can see why, in a market economy, means tested redistribution, that is, welfare, might sort of be called socialist. But in my opinion, it is better described as welfare statism, or maybe social democracy. Not socialism. It just ain't.

Early in his career, as a leader of the socialist Liberty Union Party in Vermont Bernie Sanders directly stated: "I favor the public ownership of utilities, banks and major industries." He frequently argued that the oil, energy, telephone, electric, and drug industries should be transferred to public control to serve the public good rather than billionaire profits.

That's socialism.

Now days he disavows this: "I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal."

That AIN'T socialism.

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And if the get Social Security The Wizard Saturday #1
No Medicare. paleotn Saturday #3
Seriously! They get a paycheck. Bigger paycheck if they're being shot at. paleotn Saturday #2
MAGA will cancel those military benefits "to save tax dollars" IronLionZion Saturday #4
Reagan Bush 1, Bush 2, Trump, Trum0 have ALREADY destroyed what we give back to active and veterans dave99 Saturday #11
No shit popsdenver 14 hrs ago #36
Seriously. James48 Saturday #5
Maybe start building public hospitals again. Work at the hospital for 4 years and your medical education LiberalArkie Saturday #7
Like Switzerland. Where all the DARK money hides. dave99 Saturday #12
Oh snap PatSeg Saturday #6
That's why they started calling us communists again. They can no longer defend their hatred of socialism. Iggo Saturday #8
Technically the term for this is "company town" SouthBayDem Saturday #9
Not sure a company town is anything to hold up as good radical noodle 18 hrs ago #31
You assume they care or even comprehend relayerbob Saturday #10
As a VET I never got anything free. Jacson6 Saturday #13
I was raised on a military base, which also had housing for civilians. Baitball Blogger Saturday #16
In the Navy, Farmer-Rick 19 hrs ago #29
The military is a job.... reACTIONary Saturday #14
The difference is that those benefits are being paid by taxpayers. Baitball Blogger Saturday #17
I don't think paying people to do a job, and giving them benefits... reACTIONary Saturday #18
The light bulb will go on any minute. Baitball Blogger Saturday #20
On a similar note popsdenver 14 hrs ago #38
Sure it is Blumancru 21 hrs ago #27
Socialized medicine? That's... reACTIONary 16 hrs ago #34
Same for ICE Renew Deal Saturday #15
What would you say is the difference is .... reACTIONary Saturday #19
One is based on capitalism and involves private capital; and the other is a government policy paid by taxpayers. Baitball Blogger Saturday #21
Would you say paying government employees a wage... reACTIONary Saturday #24
Lots there to absorb. Baitball Blogger 21 hrs ago #26
Thanks for your thoughts on this! reACTIONary 15 hrs ago #35
What about the difference between "private corporate-profit-funded" and ..... ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #28
The difference between .... reACTIONary 16 hrs ago #33
It is not free PCB66 Saturday #22
What has already been said: We don't begrudge the perks, Baitball Blogger Saturday #23
I'm retired AF and I have fun with my fellow retirees when they complain about socialism LogDog75 Saturday #25
Socialism require the working class to pay (minimum) double Justice matters. 18 hrs ago #30
This country must really despise our elderly and military Capt. America 17 hrs ago #32
Interesting how the republinazis are against "socialized medicine", area51 14 hrs ago #37
Social Security does not involve Progressive dog 13 hrs ago #39
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