We just fucking cannibalize each other fucking ourselves over and over.

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133. I understand where you are coming from and feel/think we should call progressive Democrats, FDR Democrats.

I heard that on Stephanie Miller's radio program. I am pretty sure Jody Hamilton said it was a more acceptable label to people than calling oneself a socialist, which create negative reactions, even though the fire and police departments are very socialist, we pay for everybody to use their services, when needed with our taxes.

Jerry Brown, California's Governor for the 2nd time, 2011 to 2019, while on a visit to the Central California, to visit some sort of farmers groups, who proudly told him they were Democrats. He responded, I am paraphrasing here, "No, not really, you are really moderate republicans." Which was true, and nobody had a fit. It was the truth. Democrats in a very conservative area are not the same as Democrats in a very liberal progressive area.

I am in my 70's and can remember that being a communist or a socialist was not good and was very bad.