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HiPointDem

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:57 AM Jan 2013

U.S. now on pace for European levels of austerity in 2013 [View all]

For years now, economists like Paul Krugman have been criticizing countries in Europe for engaging in too much austerity during the downturn — that is, enacting tax increases and spending cuts while their economies were still weak.

But after this week’s fiscal cliff deal, the United States is now on pace to engage in about as much fiscal consolidation in 2013 as many European nations have been doing in recent years — and more than countries like Britain and Spain...

So how does the sheer scale of the U.S. austerity program for 2013 compare to what European countries have been doing over the past few years? We can get an approximate sense by looking at this paper from the European Trade Union Institute on the size of Europe’s various fiscal consolidation programs. A few comparisons:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AoSDSGwq-KBTdGpwbEZId2l4UzEyYTJqdVJ4TW81bmc&oid=1&zx=ewa8ytksbxid

Britain has earned a lot of criticism for its austerity programs in the past two years. But at a total size of 1.5 and 1.6 percent of GDP, each of those two deficit-reduction years were smaller than what the United States is planning this year. The United States is also planning to cut and tax more heavily this year than Spain did in 2010 and 2011. Or France. That said, we’re nowhere near Greek or Portuguese or Irish levels of austerity...

Either way, Congress is starting to tighten fiscal policy this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/02/the-u-s-is-now-planning-more-austerity-than-europe/

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K&R We People Jan 2013 #1
Ironic how teabaggers ridicule Europe for its economic problems but rejoice at austerity measures gtar100 Jan 2013 #2
The area we need heavy cuts is defense davidpdx Jan 2013 #3
Austerity would be fine tama Jan 2013 #4
Austerity on Defense means employment cuts. Downwinder Jan 2013 #6
There is lot of unnecessary, harmful and insane employment tama Jan 2013 #7
How many useless jobs are there? We are already at least at 7-8% unemployment TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #14
Well tama Jan 2013 #19
I can dig that but the dynamic must be changed first otherwise it is just cold hearted mass murder TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #42
What we are living in tama Jan 2013 #46
Our Defense Budget Has To Be Slashed 1ProudAtheist Jan 2013 #10
Hell, we'd go a long way just to get rid of the waste and fraud. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #12
2006 (Last available) Total Defense Employment 144,646,000 Downwinder Jan 2013 #13
All tama Jan 2013 #20
None. Downwinder Jan 2013 #23
You work for MIC? tama Jan 2013 #24
Nope. What manufacturing is left in this country that is not Downwinder Jan 2013 #26
There is lot to do tama Jan 2013 #27
Austerity did not work before Downwinder Jan 2013 #28
Good example of "less is more" tama Jan 2013 #29
CCC and WPA did not really produce anything necessary. Downwinder Jan 2013 #30
It has contributed to some technological innovations. tama Jan 2013 #32
Yes, it may mean employment cuts davidpdx Jan 2013 #49
Well then, expect another dip into depression, I mean recession fasttense Jan 2013 #5
It's not America's wealth tama Jan 2013 #8
Oh no, Capitalism hasnt even started to REALLY feed on us yet. But your right we are on that path Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #9
Sheer stupidity newfie11 Jan 2013 #11
"This is pure greed until we all go down" . . . or, all rise up. leveymg Jan 2013 #15
Yeah I guess we will see newfie11 Jan 2013 #38
I bet as a population we don't resist it like the Europeans... Earth_First Jan 2013 #16
Explains why the government spent so much time infiltrating Occupy. mmonk Jan 2013 #17
+1 Earth_First Jan 2013 #21
Can't afford to have the disadvantaged get together Downwinder Jan 2013 #22
Imposing a "new normal" can be tricky woo me with science Jan 2013 #36
du rec. nt xchrom Jan 2013 #18
What we need to fix is the $500 billion / year trade deficit. FarCenter Jan 2013 #25
Don't shop at WalMart. Buy Made in USA & local. Generate your own heat/electric. leveymg Jan 2013 #39
It's more than WalMart FarCenter Jan 2013 #45
Unfortunately, one doesn't follow the other in and of itself leveymg Jan 2013 #48
Oh well as a positive coming out of suffering..... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #31
"austerity" is the socialization of the thefts and mistakes of the rich. How can he not know it's Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #33
+ All the Money Went Octafish Jan 2013 #34
Thanks for the link! n/t Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #37
You are most welcome, Fire Walk With Me! Octafish Jan 2013 #43
But...but....we have a *Democratic* President, woo me with science Jan 2013 #35
Most of Items He Cites Do Not Really Amount to an Austerity Program On the Road Jan 2013 #40
The point isn't who individual items affect; the point is the cuts to spending/deficits slow the HiPointDem Jan 2013 #41
Austerity = depression roamer65 Jan 2013 #44
Bingo. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #47
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