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hlthe2b

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37. In only a few states, no matter how you or I may feel about it. Please stop calling out DUers
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:58 PM
20 hrs ago

who are either less informed or perhaps better informed, given it is not being prosecuted as rape or even sexual assault in MOST states and in those that do is most often a civil, not criminal prosecution, as I laid out from my relative who has prosecuted such cases.

This year, at least three states — Vermont, Texas, and Utah— are reportedly considering passing anti-stealthing legislation inspired by the California law, though none have made it to its respective governor's desk. Several more states have considered versions of the issue since 2017, though those previous bills have so far failed to gain the traction necessary to push through legislatures in Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey and Idaho, in part because there has been disagreement over whether "stealthing" rises to the level of rape and whether it's a civil or criminal offense. (It should be noted that the bill only passed in California after Garcia re-introduced it as a civil — not criminal — offense.) 


Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/

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I don't need to know more about this guy... lame54 21 hrs ago #1
I believe her. QueerDuck 21 hrs ago #2
Also a crime in many states. RandySF 21 hrs ago #3
Only if it is a clear violation of a consensual agreement--and then almost always ONLY if repercussions hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #6
It is illegal in my state because it negates a woman's consent and it is treated as sexual assualt. 50 Shades Of Blue 21 hrs ago #9
It is hard to prove. I have a close relative who lives in such a state-- and has tried to prosecute... hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #13
Regardless, it's a crime. Plenty of crimes are hard to prove. 50 Shades Of Blue 21 hrs ago #15
And given courts, juries, judges believe the defendent's claim of accident--sans a lot of other hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #16
How many shitty behaviors does a guy get to get a pass on? EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #28
EdmondDantes. You tell me we exactly where I have ever given him benefit-of-the-doubt? hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #31
Here's the exact quote: EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #53
The intent (as you WELL know is to put emphasis on the rape allegations already made) hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #54
Nothing would surprise me about him now. WinningAgain 21 hrs ago #4
This is becoming gratuitous.. We get it.. He needs to go... hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #5
This woman already talked about this months ago with the NYT obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #20
I have addressed this repeatedly in this and other posts... hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #27
Platner is done MerryBlooms 20 hrs ago #38
I fear the party powers-that-be are going to make everything even worse (if that is possible).. hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #40
Mills was right of centrist MerryBlooms 19 hrs ago #49
I take your opinion on Mills and the reasons for her rejection... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #51
TMI (too much information). Spare us the details Katinfl 21 hrs ago #7
She is talking about him sexually assaulting her obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #22
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #8
Oh who cares about this? Are people really interested in these kinds of details? Nanjeanne 21 hrs ago #10
Same here. Why do I need to hear about this. Polly Hennessey 21 hrs ago #12
it's sexual assault, so it's okay if it happens all the time? obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #24
Even those few states that have developed (mostly civil statutes) fail to consider it rape hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #36
Yes, it's sexual assault obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #23
In only a few states, no matter how you or I may feel about it. Please stop calling out DUers hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #37
Ok I'm jumping out of semi retirement to address this JefilteFish 18 hrs ago #52
I am downplaying nothing. Only that the emphasis on the rapes is enough to remove him hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #55
You're carrying water for anyone who wants to dismiss JefilteFish 14 hrs ago #56
You are being ridiculous and your accusations show you don't bother to read or hlthe2b 9 hrs ago #57
That's downright galling and disgusting. no_hypocrisy 21 hrs ago #11
I assume bathroom habits and personal grooming are next? NoMoreRepugs 21 hrs ago #14
Why are you excusing rape??? THIS IS RAPE obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #25
I think it should be But those states with or considering stealthing statutes largely have not... hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #35
What. The. Fuck? mcar 20 hrs ago #33
He wanted 18 years of child support payments. milestogo 21 hrs ago #17
I suspect it had more to do with MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #50
Thanks for this post. The subject line is clear about its content TommyT139 21 hrs ago #18
Thank you for the link. demmiblue 20 hrs ago #21
Seriously, this is literally a form of rape obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #26
It's been eye-opening. demmiblue 20 hrs ago #30
Maybe, just maybe others are either less informed or actually MORE INFORMED on the issue hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #44
I'm not reading that again -- I am educated on this obamanut2012 10 min ago #60
Honestly, I thought (like others) it was more universally outlawed. TommyT139 20 hrs ago #29
Especially with the downfall of Roe, and the attack on women's reproductive healthcare.n/t demmiblue 20 hrs ago #32
Yeah, it's a way to control and baby trap women obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #41
I think many do. But there is a lot of misinformation and conflation on this issue and hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #39
Except this is more proof of rape obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #42
It can be. As I posted earlier... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #46
No, stealthing is a form of rape obamanut2012 10 min ago #61
Stealthing is rape obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #19
It is no wonder women feel there's no point in reporting sexual assaults sarisataka 20 hrs ago #34
Thank you obamanut2012 20 hrs ago #43
So he sexually assaulted her. Jirel 19 hrs ago #45
Yes, when consensual sex turns into rape, it's rape. Iggo 19 hrs ago #48
I've already heard enough about this guy. Iggo 19 hrs ago #47
This woman was previously discredited as a right-wing partisan Shrek 8 hrs ago #58
No, she wasn't obamanut2012 11 min ago #59
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