General Discussion

Orrex

(67,620 posts)

3. Then let's fault The Establishment for failing to present an electable candidate

Reply to WSHazel (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 06:46 AM

Wednesday

Collins has been there for 29 years. In all that time, The Establishment hasn't been able to find anyone to beat her?

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

12 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Bettie Celerity leftstreet doubleplusgood Scrivener7 Rockbottom oasis Xavier Breath kcoates AStern Texas_Blue_Dem obnoxiousdrunk

134 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Democrats Sold Their Soul for a Senate Seat [View all] PunkinPi Wednesday OP

That article is pure gaslighting WSHazel Wednesday #1

Some of us on the left didn't want him. I am literally a Berniecrat, GPV Wednesday #2

The responsibility for the "piss-poor vetting" goes to Morris Katz, the same guy who brought us Fetterman. lapucelle Wednesday #9

Anyone who thought Fetterman had a winning strategy and believed GPV Wednesday #10

Fetterman ran against the Wizard named Oz Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #88

What if Morris Katz "didn't suck"? Cha Wednesday #11

.... lapucelle Wednesday #12

lol.. Cha Wednesday #14

All of this needs to come out in daylight. yardwork Wednesday #23

Platner had big, big boosters in the media. They shut down each and every discussion. lapucelle Wednesday #25

That needs to be investigated too. yardwork Wednesday #111

+1. The 27-year-old wunderkind political strategist who will save Democrats dalton99a Wednesday #27

Thank you for links! betsuni Wednesday #37

Is it the same Morris Katz? LeftInTX Wednesday #50

Yup. N/T lapucelle Wednesday #52

I don't think that Fetterman was bad until he was hospitalized after being elected question everything Wednesday #54

Rebecca Katz served as a senior adviser and chief political strategist for John Fetterman's 2022 Senate campaign. lapucelle Wednesday #57

And yet, he posted the photos of all the Israeli hostages outside his office question everything Wednesday #61

Indeed he did. Fetterman was on the record as a strong supporter of Israel before his stroke. lapucelle Wednesday #63

Really weird about wanting to use his own penis in a puberty book, and then including that statement in the book MichMan Wednesday #71

Katz's publisher had to talk him out of using photos of his own penis in a children's book. lapucelle Wednesday #72

Now that is rather disturbing. sheshe2 Wednesday #118

"...and wanted to use pictures of his own..." 3catwoman3 Wednesday #76

How about MAGAt? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #82

I was thinking more along the lines of deviant... 3catwoman3 Wednesday #90

character-defining Skittles Wednesday #92

Then let's fault The Establishment for failing to present an electable candidate Orrex Wednesday #3

No. There's no Excuse for Graham Planter. Cha Wednesday #5

I don't say it as an excuse for Platner. That skeevy fucker can rot in jail. Orrex Wednesday #8

Partly it's the fault of the Party. Milquetoast incrementalists. Also, GPV Wednesday #13

You're a Green Party voter who has voted for Republicans? lapucelle Wednesday #20

A shallow and dismissive stance. I've been a registered GPV Wednesday #21

So GPV doesn't stand for "Green Party Voter", and you didn't vote for a Republican? lapucelle Wednesday #24

Okay, play the purity game if it makes you happy. I can forgive you, since GPV Wednesday #28

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. lapucelle Wednesday #30

Yeah, you guys must have run off the Republican converts GPV Wednesday #32

Who ran who off? JustAnotherGen Wednesday #80

Shouldn't we be celebrating their conversion to our side? TVguyCards Wednesday #87

lol... year we're so "pure"... we'ce been Cha 18 hrs ago #134

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton were both Republicans at one point EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #46

Hillary was one in JustAnotherGen Wednesday #104

Thank you for complexity, nuance, and depth. mr715 Wednesday #59

I appreciate that. :) As an educator, it's part of my GPV Wednesday #60

I have so much respect for special ed support faculty mr715 Wednesday #62

I'm laughing because of the bathroom anecdote. :) GPV Wednesday #69

Doctors, nurses, teachers, paras. mr715 Wednesday #113

I hope you find a wonderful place to be. I'm in one myself, and GPV Wednesday #115

It is a blessing to teach science. mr715 Wednesday #119

I sat in for three classes of life science per day this year, but next year we swing GPV Wednesday #124

I don't have a single JustAnotherGen Wednesday #101

This is like a bingo card mcar Wednesday #68

String two of them together lapucelle Wednesday #123

Nah, let's fault the folks who recruited, boosted, and amplified this guy. lapucelle Wednesday #17

Ooh, the "Establishment" mcar Wednesday #66

IKR?! sheshe2 Wednesday #122

At least the Establishment never presented a rapist krawhitham Wednesday #97

Swallwell WSHazel Wednesday #99

That's about as low as the bar can be set Orrex Wednesday #127

Bouzy is calling out the... PunkinPi Wednesday #34

I think we've gotten some great progressive, left candidates pinkstarburst Wednesday #38

Did you notice how AOC and Mamdani didn't wander anywhere near Platner Quiet Em Wednesday #42

Someone here yesterday called for Sen. Schumer to step down mcar Wednesday #47

he needs to pass the fucking baton already, regardless Skittles Wednesday #108

"He was shoved down our throats by the Left" TVguyCards Wednesday #86

Thanks for Bolding it, Punkin.. Cha Wednesday #4

Daniel Moraff should find other employment. harumph Wednesday #6

I started out as a Platner skeptic MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #49

The Nazi tatoo should have been enough for Democrats. redstatebluegirl Wednesday #56

I agree 👍 MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #58

I have yet to meet any quality people pinkstarburst Wednesday #77

It was up to the voters of Maine SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #7

Not going to even read it canetoad Wednesday #15

such bullshit bigtree Wednesday #16

yes, NOW Skittles Wednesday #94

Platner was supposed to be some kind of pushback to party regulars bigtree Wednesday #100

bottom line is Skittles Wednesday #105

That preachy BS doesnt account for Democrats wanting something different Renew Deal Wednesday #18

wanting something different is one thing Skittles Wednesday #95

Exactly.... OhioBack2Blue Wednesday #19

And a lot of the responses here condemning the article prove it's point. n/t Ms. Toad Wednesday #22

the author is a AI developing scammer and promoting troll bigtree Wednesday #36

The sentiments expressed are what I have been observing in Democratic politics Ms. Toad Wednesday #41

but the people who were doing that weren't associated with the 'Pod Saves America' left bigtree Wednesday #43

The opinion piece does not mention "pod saves America." n/t Ms. Toad Wednesday #44

I included that to emphasize that Platner's support didn't come from the people the author claims bigtree Wednesday #48

The author doesn't establish who the party is they are referring to EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #26

To be fair pinkstarburst Wednesday #39

Alas we don't have a time machine. EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #53

Excellent summary of the entire mud-soaked affair Sympthsical Wednesday #102

Great. I Agree. BannonsLiver Wednesday #29

He's the founder of Bot Sentinel TVguyCards Wednesday #89

Thanks for the background. BannonsLiver Wednesday #91

Platner could just as easily ran as MAGA YorkRd Wednesday #31

Agree blubunyip Wednesday #103

Lawrence was great last night on Platner LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #33

That he was! Thanks for posting. nt PunkinPi Wednesday #35

The voters voted for him ... the issue is the time we live in Cosmocat Wednesday #40

Retrumplicans sold their souls for misogyny, racism, fascism, white supremacy and hatred maxrandb Wednesday #45

Dear god. Garbage awesomerwb1 Wednesday #51

My favorite part ABC123Easy Wednesday #55

I got a few of those too mcar Wednesday #70

Sorry ABC123Easy Wednesday #74

"It's not a Nazi tattoo" sarisataka Wednesday #84

Yep ABC123Easy Wednesday #96

yup Skittles Wednesday #98

That's right! I forgot ABC123Easy Wednesday #110

sad thing is, many would still vote for him Skittles Wednesday #117

Instead of getting upset with who Maine Democratic voters chose as their senate candidate... biocube Wednesday #64

When did that happen? N/T lapucelle Wednesday #75

Link to that happening? obamanut2012 Wednesday #83

Pending... lame54 Wednesday #65

Yeah, let's just keep doing what we've been doing since it's working out SO well for us. SMDH beaglelover Wednesday #67

Voters get to make their own choice. IMO there's a better approach to pursue... 31j20b3 Wednesday #73

THIS. Turned out that, unknown to the electorate B.See Wednesday #128

The Party ignored? JustAnotherGen Wednesday #78

There is a lot of that crap to be Progressive dog Wednesday #79

Who are the disgruntled white men Democrats are "chasing"?? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #81

Not all Democrats... sarisataka Wednesday #85

an utterly shameful chapter Skittles Wednesday #93

Is a refund a possibility? Red Mountain Wednesday #106

Divisive, simplistic nonsense Easterncedar Wednesday #107

I first heard of "blue no matter who" during the 2020 primary and it was mostly centrists that were stating that AZProgressive Wednesday #109

I sold my soul for rock and roll first Stacey Grove Wednesday #112

I might have, but no one was buying Easterncedar Wednesday #116

I can forgive him for the "Nazi" tattoo PCB66 Wednesday #114

Did I sell my soul? mr715 Wednesday #120

Stopping MAGA and Project 2025, and holding the GOP, Fox, and Heritage responsible should be our #1 priority. Initech Wednesday #121

Part of the problem is, imho Dyedinthewoolliberal Wednesday #125

It was a hatchet job, timing was sus duckworth969 Wednesday #126

We can kiss the Senate bye, bye WinningAgain Wednesday #129

The claim is that "the party ignored the bigotry, the whathehell Wednesday #130

Bullshit. The dynamics are so much more complicated that this bullshit narrative. pat_k Wednesday #131

Exactly. Abolishinist Wednesday #132

So I'm supposed to feel guilty about Maine voters nominating Platner? NOPE Vogon_Glory Wednesday #133