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MrScorpio

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:33 PM Jan 2013

I'm loving this: Federal Court Rules Flipping Off Police Is Constitutional (FUCK YEAH!) [View all]




WASHINGTON -- A police officer can't pull you over and arrest you just because you gave him the finger, a federal appeals court declared Thursday.

In a 14-page opinion, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ruled that the "ancient gesture of insult is not the basis for a reasonable suspicion of a traffic violation or impending criminal activity."

John Swartz and his wife Judy Mayton-Swartz had sued two police officers who arrested Swartz in May 2006 after he flipped off an officer who was using a radar device at an intersection in St. Johnsville, N.Y. Swartz was later charged with a violation of New York's disorderly conduct statute, but the charges were dismissed on speedy trial grounds.

A federal judge in the Northern District of New York granted summary judgement to the officers in July 2011, but the Court of Appeals on Thursday erased that decision and ordered the lower court to take up the case again.

Richard Insogna, the officer who stopped Swartz and his wife when they arrived at their destination, claimed he pulled the couple over because he believed Swartz was "trying to get my attention for some reason." The appeals court didn't buy that explanation, ruling that the "nearly universal recognition that this gesture is an insult deprives such an interpretation of reasonableness."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/flip-off-police_n_2403563.html?
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Right on, I'm going to flip off the next cop I see Fumesucker Jan 2013 #1
I believe it is a good ruling. Jenoch Jan 2013 #2
Probably because any cop that warrants a bird is, more likely than not, an asshole MrScorpio Jan 2013 #3
I think you missed my point. Jenoch Jan 2013 #4
I would defer that reasoning to the bird-flipper in question… MrScorpio Jan 2013 #6
I still don't think anything good can come of it. Jenoch Jan 2013 #8
It's my SOP avoid cops in all cases, as possible MrScorpio Jan 2013 #10
You should work on your reading comprehension if you believe this applies to me. Jenoch Jan 2013 #13
It applies to everyone, including both you and me. MrScorpio Jan 2013 #17
I posted the same thing BEFORE your reply to me. Jenoch Jan 2013 #18
I just love it when people use that false equivalency argument between cops and other occupations MrScorpio Jan 2013 #21
Sure I understand that. Jenoch Jan 2013 #22
The ones that aren't are often compliant. white_wolf Jan 2013 #23
You watch too much TV. djg21 Jan 2013 #40
I believe that they're all POTENTIALLY crooked MrScorpio Jan 2013 #24
I agree with your Jenoch Jan 2013 #25
Most people, especially the racial majority, have no idea about what the police are up to MrScorpio Jan 2013 #27
My experiences with law enforcement Jenoch Jan 2013 #29
As someone with cop associations, you have distinct advantage over people who do not MrScorpio Jan 2013 #30
Oh hell, I've seen a lot of police misconduct, Jenoch Jan 2013 #31
Find. Then don't do it. No one is forcing you to. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #12
"Find"? Jenoch Jan 2013 #15
Yep. djg21 Jan 2013 #37
And if he's an arsehole, what's he going to do? TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #16
Any time the rights of the people are raised over the authority of the police, it is a victory MrScorpio Jan 2013 #20
My point is it's an empty victory, which will result... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #41
'A police officer can't pull you over and arrest you *just* because you gave him the finger...' Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #5
Like I said before, a LOT of cops are assholes. nt MrScorpio Jan 2013 #7
If someone flips me off for no reason, they are going in a ditch ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #9
Keep reaching for the rainbow, baby! nt MrScorpio Jan 2013 #11
And then you will be facing criminal charges, and kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #14
Actually, people who flip others off for no real good reason.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #36
Uh-huh RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #19
I don't know why any cop would worry about getting flipped off Renew Deal Jan 2013 #26
They call it "Contempt of Cop" MrScorpio Jan 2013 #28
you'd have to be an idiot to flip off a cop Skittles Jan 2013 #32
I wouldn't do it MrScorpio Jan 2013 #33
I will probably never flip off a cop... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #34
Also good news to anyone born this way (if any). Amonester Jan 2013 #35
What could possibly go wrong? -..__... Jan 2013 #38
Well, I guess police brutality entertains you. MrScorpio Jan 2013 #39
right. It'll still get you tased or worse. Cops not lawyers librechik Jan 2013 #42
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