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Major Nikon

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63. Sexism does not need to be said

Reply to Odin2005 (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:33 AM

Jan 2013

If you don't think it's sexist, imagine if a man had posted a thread entitled 10 tips to end neonaticide. Such a post would be incredibly sexist and offensive and would likely earn the poster a pizza. Yet when you flip the gender roles posters can flaunt sexism with impunity. Regardless of how important the underlying subject is, sexism is not the way to communicate points in civilized adult discussion. There is no need for sexism and it's hard to imagine in this case how this can be anything other than counterproductive to whatever the OP is trying to accomplish. There are education programs which do have proven efficacy towards prevention, but the biggest obstacle towards those initiatives aren't "men's rights folks" (whoever that is), it's the religous establishment. Yet we can't have a discussion about that because so many are hung up on indignant sexist drama.

Just sayin'

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K&R MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #1

#7 is invalid in California thelordofhell Jan 2013 #2

Or if you're Julian Assange. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #3

no it's not dsc Jan 2013 #25

This needs to be posted again and again...even here on liberal DU... CTyankee Jan 2013 #4

K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #5

I love this! SunSeeker Jan 2013 #6

The best? SCVDem Jan 2013 #7

Plus a fucken million. Iggo Jan 2013 #8

Puts the responsibility right where it belongs--with men. Hekate Jan 2013 #9

love it!! PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #10

This bothers me immensely davidn3600 Jan 2013 #49

You are totally missing the point. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #50

K&R, Great Thread. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #68

EXACTLY. nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #11

Wow, that's a great list! tavalon Jan 2013 #12

You will NEVER see one of those "blame the victim" things from me... PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #13

Good tavalon Jan 2013 #15

I am a huge fan of Jackson Katz who does a wonderful job of advocating. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #17

That is also an awesome list. nt LisaLynne Jan 2013 #18

This is great. Bookmarking for future reference. MadrasT Jan 2013 #34

I can't emphasize enough how overall goddam important is #3. Iggo Jan 2013 #58

Thank you for that. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #59

Remember Golda Meir's response to protecting women by locking women up at night? REP Jan 2013 #47

Yes, she was a treasure. :) PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #51

^^^^THIS^^^^ me b zola Jan 2013 #14

This needs to be posted over and over etherealtruth Jan 2013 #16

This is GREAT and should be extended to other crimes, too. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #19

I get that you missed the nuance of the list. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #20

You missed the nuance of the list Confusious Jan 2013 #26

confucius would say: you should read content of post you reply to PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #27

I did, and it's bullshit Confusious Jan 2013 #28

while you make an intelligent, strong and well-reasoned argument, I disagree. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #30

Of course you do. Confusious Jan 2013 #32

you didn't read a fucking word. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #31

I read the entire thing. As you said, I disagree. Confusious Jan 2013 #33

Ah, method #1452 to try to shut up a woman who speaks out. MadrasT Jan 2013 #35

I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between risk reduction and prevention. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #36

That's a straw man DUDE Confusious Jan 2013 #38

..|.. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #40

par for the course. nt Confusious Jan 2013 #41

..|.. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #42

Now you're just making me laugh. Confusious Jan 2013 #43

Are you sitting in your stinky leather recliner Tsiyu Jan 2013 #45

Tip #7 on the poster seems to be a grey area to some Members here at DU REP Jan 2013 #48

Yes. There HAVE been a number of DUers defending Julian Assange, Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #56

I was thinking about the self-admitted rapist who posted this: REP Jan 2013 #64

You REALLY are trying to deflect attention from the fact that vast majority of rapists are men MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #53

Nope. Dominique Strauss-Kahn; Julian Assange; Roman Polanski. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #57

Kick for everyone who is sick of risk reduction being taught to women as 'prevention'. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #21

k/r Solly Mack Jan 2013 #22

K&R SalviaBlue Jan 2013 #23

The least time this was posted the "Mens Rights" folks had a hissy fit. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #24

I remember. Iggo Jan 2013 #60

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DURec leftstreet Jan 2013 #29

Bravo Tsiyu Jan 2013 #37

Thank you. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #39

I especially love the mixed messages Tsiyu Jan 2013 #44

k+r ...nt TeeYiYi Jan 2013 #46

Is this a Joke ? Geez...I hope so. BlueJazz Jan 2013 #52

No, it's not a 'joke'. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #54

Damn...if our society has gotten this bad that we have to say stuff like: > BlueJazz Jan 2013 #55

It's been this bad. redqueen Jan 2013 #62

It's nice to know there are men like you BlueJazz. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #69

Aw..that was sweet. Thanks for posting that. BlueJazz Jan 2013 #71

This is real... aptal Jan 2013 #61

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Yes. To everything. Confusious Jan 2013 #66

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This shoild be an OP. redqueen Jan 2013 #72

Thank you- you are correct- the MRA stuff is deliberate disinformation. bettyellen Jan 2013 #75

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I don't find the OP offensive at all, so I can't speak for those who are offended. Silent3 Jan 2013 #76

How DARE you try to make me feel like I'm the one responsible.., Iggo Jan 2013 #70