FAIL. Obama LOWERED Capital Gains Tax from 40% to 20%!

[rhett o rick]

150. No cuts in SS is not a victory. This is a good example of where some Democrats are today.

SS and Medicare shouldnt even be part of the negotiations. The cap should be raised and the Medicare age reduced to 55. That's where we should be bargaining from.

We went over the cliff. If this deal hadnt been done, taxes would have gone back to the pre-Bush cuts. So that's where we were bargaining from. The pre-Bush cuts levels. It was the Republican (Bush) argument that small tax cuts for the middle class were worth large cuts for the rich. That was bullcrap. And yet that's exactly what happened when Bush cuts taxes and that's what happened here. This time it wasnt Bush. Granted the rich didnt make out as good as via Bush, but they made out better than if the deal wasnt done.

We need to raise taxes. The Bush cuts EXPIRED. They were gone. So the Democrats should have submitted a bill to lower taxes on the middle class. But nooooo. They bargained using SS and Medicare. No cuts and the rich get a break. I cant believe you are happy with that.

And it is intellectually dishonest in a discussion to intimate that progressive want a bill that hurts the poor and middle class. You said, "if you are happy to hurt poor and/or middle class people so you can also hurt the rich at the same time, that is definitely not being Progressive." No progressive wants to hurt the poor or middle class. What you are saying is that ending the Bush tax cuts hurts the poor and middle class. Therefore you support the Bush tax cuts.