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Jeff In Milwaukee

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51. Target Shooting...

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:44 PM

Jan 2013

IMHO is the only genuine "need" for military style weapons. They suck for hunting anything other than small game (and plenty of alternatives exist) and they suck for personal defense (again, handguns are far better suited for that).

While I'm sympathetic to those who use these firearms for competetive shooting, I just don't see how one can reasonably weigh the "need" for target shooting against the danger these weapons pose to the general public.

I'd like to see them regulated with the same care that we use for fully-automatic weapons, with the goal being that over time, they will be exclusively in the hands of gun collectors (who tend to be a pretty sober and law-abiding group). Full Disclosure: I'm not a gun collector, so while I am generally law abiding, I would fail the "sober" test with flying colors.

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Welcome to new members who, just coincidentally, use assault rifles to hunt! [View all] bongbong Jan 2013 OP

Allow me to be the first billh58 Jan 2013 #1

It is doubtful that anyone is using Jenoch Jan 2013 #2

But it's the stuck record meme for justification of said weapon. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #3

You are mistaken. Jenoch Jan 2013 #7

Judging by your first few responses on this thread...are a prime example of exactly that meme lol Sheepshank Jan 2013 #118

Well said sheep! nt caledesi Jan 2013 #128

It's not a "stuck record" bongbong Jan 2013 #10

According to a couple long time DUers, it's critical for wild boar. progressoid Jan 2013 #4

You too are mistaken. Jenoch Jan 2013 #12

Jenoch, it was sarcasm.n/t Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #25

There was a mysterious whooshing sound awhile ago. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #71

And it's not cost prohibitive for target practice? BobbyBoring Jan 2013 #154

I don't know anyone with an assault rifle. Jenoch Jan 2013 #186

I know a couple of people with them xmas74 Jan 2013 #239

So after letting the government keep their money warm for several months, klook Jan 2013 #351

Sad, isn't it? xmas74 Jan 2013 #371

All good recommendations klook Jan 2013 #375

I pay bills xmas74 Jan 2013 #381

You can't get an assault rifle for $5000 rl6214 Jan 2013 #390

but the five grand and up xmas74 Jan 2013 #393

Who cares about laws? bongbong Jan 2013 #6

Actually, if you're referring to what is generally called MineralMan Jan 2013 #11

An AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Jenoch Jan 2013 #15

Yes, yes. The definition is unclear. MineralMan Jan 2013 #19

No, the definition of what Jenoch Jan 2013 #23

Oh, please. That's your definition. MineralMan Jan 2013 #28

No semantics, just actual definitions. Words have meaning, even if not everyone is aware. Jenoch Jan 2013 #41

That's true. So let's talk about the word "arms." dorkulon Jan 2013 #178

I have never posted anything that Jenoch Jan 2013 #191

Consider "assault rifle" vs "assault weapon" One is codifed (AW) the other is not. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #74

The reality is that both terms are in wide use, and indiscriminately. MineralMan Jan 2013 #112

Remington 700 models were once common snioer rifles Jenoch Jan 2013 #124

Yes. So? I said as much in another subthread. MineralMan Jan 2013 #126

I wasn't trying to be Jenoch Jan 2013 #134

Yet, Congress never fucks it up. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #155

Um. No. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #153

The "AR" in "AR-15" either stands for "Assault Rifle" or "ArmaLite Rifle," depending on which of Erose999 Jan 2013 #21

The AR never stood for assault rifle. Jenoch Jan 2013 #26

Still not sure what your obsession with its definition is rbixby Jan 2013 #182

This started with one post and the rest are replies. Jenoch Jan 2013 #195

Name one. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #32

AR never stood for Assault Rifle by the inventer. tradecenter Jan 2013 #87

Aside from the standard round and full auto, what's the difference? leveymg Jan 2013 #107

I'm afraid it is. It is not the ammo used that makes it an assault rifle. RC Jan 2013 #135

You're right-not just the ammo, it's the select fire capability. Which current "ARs" dont have. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #252

it sure can kill a lot of kids BainsBane Jan 2013 #343

I prefer 308 littlewolf Jan 2013 #113

It's a matter of personal choice. MineralMan Jan 2013 #123

understand grew up in MI littlewolf Jan 2013 #130

What? You're not into the pretend to rough it go back to nature and blow glinda Jan 2013 #340

A .223 for northern deer?... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #334

Yeah. I don't know what they were thinking, really. MineralMan Jan 2013 #344

The AR-15 and Ak platforms are used nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #16

SOME of the civilian versions are legally defined as assault weapons. krispos42 Jan 2013 #133

it is doubtful your statement is true farminator3000 Jan 2013 #24

Even if it were legal, Jenoch Jan 2013 #33

Goalpost moving bongbong Jan 2013 #68

I never set any goalposts or made any claims Jenoch Jan 2013 #90

Not to mention... realism101 Jan 2013 #97

we also don't know why someone would shoot up a classroom or movie theatre farminator3000 Jan 2013 #122

Why does the term bother you so much? rbixby Jan 2013 #105

A gun law, or any law, cannot be effective without Jenoch Jan 2013 #114

So what would you describe the AR-15 as then? rbixby Jan 2013 #183

Try this: jmg257 Jan 2013 #256

True. However an assault rifle is not a semi-automatic weapon covered under the expired spin Jan 2013 #280

And that, my friend, is the point tavalon Jan 2013 #342

You, my friend, missed the point, by a fully-automatic mile. Jenoch Jan 2013 #358

Well, I use a sniper rifle for hunting, so there. MineralMan Jan 2013 #5

oh my! former-republican Jan 2013 #72

I use a Sniper Assault Weapon so there! sir pball Jan 2013 #307

Snap frazzled Jan 2013 #8

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #13

Since a good number of DU'ers have decided to attack ALL gun owners including hunters KittyWampus Jan 2013 #22

The reality is ... frazzled Jan 2013 #31

Listen, I know people who hunt to get through the winter with food on the table considering LIPA KittyWampus Jan 2013 #39

And I know a Yeti bongbong Jan 2013 #70

And you think nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #94

Sure there's poverty bongbong Jan 2013 #100

But they exist nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #109

and now you understand why this poster have been blocked from GC&RKBA and unleashed onto GD Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #148

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #152

you just made a sexist and bigoted comment but, you know that. you are really nice addition to DU - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #159

sexist and bigoted? bongbong Jan 2013 #173

I happen to agree with him on quite a bit nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #248

the delivery of the message is where I take issue. the content. he hates me and shows his contempt. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #285

Yeah, but let's be brutally honest nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #301

I don't mind anyone posting their thoughts on the issues. There are posters on both sides of this Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #303

As I said, I avoid that place nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #304

I don't blame you. I found my way there by default and it has been an experience, let me tell ya! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #317

straw man, nadinbrzezinski lark Jan 2013 #202

I have...several posters are for that. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #237

Here is how to get food stamps if you know anyone who needs food in any state. Sunlei Jan 2013 #171

No Aerows Jan 2013 #174

they just made road kill legal to take to table in some states so keep an eye out for them ;) Sunlei Jan 2013 #201

Well, I'm a bit in the sticks Aerows Jan 2013 #205

Oh for fracks face nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #238

You know what your mentioning of Santee just reminded me of: ellisonz Jan 2013 #391

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #396

'Local predator population'? Jenoch Jan 2013 #254

That was my point Aerows Jan 2013 #270

No one will take away basic hunting weaps.. It would be a quagmire to even tax or permit basic guns. Sunlei Jan 2013 #284

We've been scared Aerows Jan 2013 #289

if you're willing to risk it here is a great way to cook deer ribs Sunlei Jan 2013 #315

My question was to ascertain Jenoch Jan 2013 #298

could be 40 years ago the hunting pressure was to much for their population to survive. Sunlei Jan 2013 #322

It was mostly consecutive harsh winters Jenoch Jan 2013 #337

I meant the hunters tend to kill the pack knowledge first because they are exposed to hunters more. Sunlei Jan 2013 #348

Where have you gotten the idea there are fewer trees? Jenoch Jan 2013 #359

no one ever cut down trees in your state or wiped out native grazing species? Sunlei Jan 2013 #360

Wow are you ever misinformed. Jenoch Jan 2013 #361

That sounds like beautiful land. What happened to old aspen trees before man was there to log it off Sunlei Jan 2013 #362

Before logging it would have taken decades longer for Jenoch Jan 2013 #364

I found that article I thought about. Sunlei Jan 2013 #365

Hat story is partly correct. Jenoch Jan 2013 #369

You realize snap programs are getting cut all over right? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #236

Certain members of the left Aerows Jan 2013 #291

if you meet the requirements listed on the Gov. website you will get foodstamps. Sunlei Jan 2013 #347

Yup, but programs are being cut nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #349

computerising these programs has helped cut waste and fraud. Go to the office once to apply. Sunlei Jan 2013 #350

And I am telling you a reality nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #352

I raise chickens too and don't have an issue at all with hunting legal. Sunlei Jan 2013 #356

No, you cannot use mail nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #366

perhaps an employee can run out to those shut-ins with applications one day. Sunlei Jan 2013 #367

Yeah, but we are going backwards nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #368

I personally know people Aerows Jan 2013 #144

You too? billh58 Jan 2013 #300

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Jan 2013 #311

is that your agenda... to make it look that way? fascisthunter Jan 2013 #293

Hunting stuff has generally gotten the boot from the Gungeon. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #35

It's that 84% urban to 16% rural that is significant to me Hekate Jan 2013 #221

Look at your local back country nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #244

I completely understand that, and am sympathetic to it and supportive of it Hekate Jan 2013 #255

The great dived is actually between the subsistence/ traditional hunters nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #261

Yes. Hunting with an assualt rifle. Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #9

Actually the people doing it as subsistence nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #20

Minor points ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #34

Civilian Marksmanship Program. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #38

A few minor facts needs to be inserted here overthehillvet Jan 2013 #169

The AR15 is over 60 years old. n/t Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #197

The AR entered service in the 1960s nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #246

Excuse me, "almost" 60 years old. :) Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #258

Actually a new bolt action and some ARs are cost competitive ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #30

Sorta, but not really. MineralMan Jan 2013 #42

You can build out an AR clone for about 600$. Less for used. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #36

is it coincidence, OR... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #14

Here's your complimentary PBR, Summer Sausage Roll and bottle opener belt buckle... Earth_First Jan 2013 #17

YAwn. L0oniX Jan 2013 #18

I'm from the South Aerows Jan 2013 #29

Um. It's specifically illegal in most states to shoot birds with a rifle. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #40

LOL Aerows Jan 2013 #43

No, I mean it's ridiculous for you to point it out. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #50

It's ridiculous Aerows Jan 2013 #54

No. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #56

I'm in the Deep South Aerows Jan 2013 #61

I live in the PacNW. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #66

What in the hell are you hunting with an AR-15? Aerows Jan 2013 #69

He didn't say AR-15. tradecenter Jan 2013 #79

Didn't answer my question Aerows Jan 2013 #83

Were did he ever say that? tradecenter Jan 2013 #91

GREAT! Aerows Jan 2013 #93

You bet I am. tradecenter Jan 2013 #99

We are on the same page Aerows Jan 2013 #102

I agree that sane debate is needed. tradecenter Jan 2013 #111

That, too Aerows Jan 2013 #119

I have some 30 rounders. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #108

No bump firing. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #101

He is using the AR designation to muddy the subject here. RC Jan 2013 #157

No I'm not. tradecenter Jan 2013 #167

Why is this platform shocking to you in any way? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #80

The bump-firing Aerows Jan 2013 #88

I've never seen anyone bump fire at an animal. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #98

They don't Aerows Jan 2013 #106

Bump firing is very different. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #110

I was specifically referring to slide stocks Aerows Jan 2013 #117

I'm surprised that ATF hasn't classified those slide stocks as Title III weapons yet. tradecenter Jan 2013 #127

So far it's not been used in such a manner. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #139

A Woolly Mammoth, I'll bet. stevenleser Jan 2013 #82

People. SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #332

Different rounds for different needs overthehillvet Jan 2013 #189

Everything changes Aerows Jan 2013 #192

I can't figure out Aerows Jan 2013 #27

You are missing some facts ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #44

Keep your AR-15 Aerows Jan 2013 #47

I use a semi automatic handgun for self defense. I see no need to handicap ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #58

I do Aerows Jan 2013 #65

You had food deliver itself to you during Katrina? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #141

LOL Aerows Jan 2013 #147

Hogs are mean. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #149

Wild hogs Aerows Jan 2013 #162

I've yet to see a up-rated AR-15 in the field, but I'm sure they exist. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #48

Most people would not know the difference ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #60

You know that some people hunt things that are both smaller and faster than deer, right? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #46

I live in the sticks Aerows Jan 2013 #49

And? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #53

And? n/t Aerows Jan 2013 #55

Again. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #64

Do you hunt game with an AR-15? Aerows Jan 2013 #67

Defend myself against a coyote? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #73

Like a normal hunter Aerows Jan 2013 #77

Our state has no magazine restriction. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #95

I don't know where you are getting Jenoch Jan 2013 #150

Many states have a five round limit on mag capacity for hunting. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #158

There is no magazine capacity limit for hunting in Minnesota Jenoch Jan 2013 #180

I don't live in Minnesota Aerows Jan 2013 #199

You probably should not have stated that most states limit magazine capacity to 3 rounds while hunti Jenoch Jan 2013 #243

The old Winchester .32 that holds 11 rounds Aerows Jan 2013 #204

It shoots great. It's a Model 94 made about a hundred years ago. Jenoch Jan 2013 #245

"They just want to obliterate something" marions ghost Jan 2013 #104

We have a fairly aggressive game warden program here in WA state. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #142

Nothing much happens if you do report it here in the Southeast marions ghost Jan 2013 #166

I wonder if there's a money allocation issue. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #175

We don't have game wardens marions ghost Jan 2013 #223

Merely out if curiosity, in what state are you located. Jenoch Jan 2013 #260

Thanks BongBong salinen Jan 2013 #37

???? bongbong Jan 2013 #75

Sarcasm yes salinen Jan 2013 #274

You never know bongbong Jan 2013 #279

I really recommend the 6.8 or 6.5 if you're hunting med game. ileus Jan 2013 #45

What about animals about 6 foot tall, weighing 200 pounds? bongbong Jan 2013 #76

Depends. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #103

I think the ole poodle shooter is a good bad guy stopper ileus Jan 2013 #151

the 6.5 or 6.8 are good for elk. ileus Jan 2013 #145

Target Shooting... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #51

Could just do what other countries do jeff47 Jan 2013 #247

Actually that makes sense Hekate Jan 2013 #259

Works for me... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #329

I am, I suppose, and I think a civilian arsenal is a workable idea Recursion Jan 2013 #397

JFK murder GoresBigOilSlick Jan 2013 #52

The probleem is firearms are meant to save lives. ileus Jan 2013 #62

Pizza TIME! bongbong Jan 2013 #81

Yeah. tradecenter Jan 2013 #121

What, no thanks for the pizza? freshwest Jan 2013 #84

Now, go and billh58 Jan 2013 #136

Don't knock it if you have never hunted squirrel with an assault rifle with a large clip still_one Jan 2013 #57

Generally the large magazine is illegal for squirrel hunting Recursion Jan 2013 #398

Outlaw hunting and all excuses for owning any weapons for any other reason Cleita Jan 2013 #59

And this OP contributes to an intelligent discussion of gun laws by doing...??? derby378 Jan 2013 #63

Pointing out NRA-bots infesting DU .... bongbong Jan 2013 #78

The Dittohead legions will salute you, sir. freshwest Jan 2013 #85

I love this post ... Scuba Jan 2013 #86

Yes! bongbong Jan 2013 #96

I see that Mirt has been very good at getting rid of them. n/t hrmjustin Jan 2013 #89

bongbong JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #92

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #156

You my friend! JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #165

kick samsingh Jan 2013 #115

We need a Hunting Group! grantcart Jan 2013 #116

Hunting and Fishing Aerows Jan 2013 #120

Outdoor life allows it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #176

Gun control only penalizes law abiding citizens Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #125

This post JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #129

So, just because you disagree with my posts, it needs to be moved now? Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #379

How exactly will the shit hit the fan, Sarah? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #384

Gun porn. myrna minx Jan 2013 #131

Well now, aren't billh58 Jan 2013 #138

Are you saying you are so selfish that having fun hunting with ARs is more important jmg257 Jan 2013 #140

You sound very scared bongbong Jan 2013 #160

Believe this, Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #372

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #374

I ain't convinced either. Hoyt Jan 2013 #380

So, let's do nothing then? eaglesfanintn Jan 2013 #163

It's just NRA Talking Points bongbong Jan 2013 #177

delicate flowers ??? saltire Jan 2013 #213

That's easy! bongbong Jan 2013 #215

I'm really trying to understand.. saltire Jan 2013 #222

Read bongbong Jan 2013 #226

ok, but still no answer? saltire Jan 2013 #227

Your question bongbong Jan 2013 #266

Answer the question, already derby378 Jan 2013 #308

I'll let you bongbong Jan 2013 #312

what is freeper-speak saltire Jan 2013 #316

Well intentioned Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #373

Please allow me to explain. billh58 Jan 2013 #230

you make some good points saltire Jan 2013 #241

And there is that NRA bullshit again. billh58 Jan 2013 #250

you call me scary.. saltire Jan 2013 #276

Yes, I do keep up with current billh58 Jan 2013 #286

hey, I went to UH Manoa saltire Jan 2013 #302

"troll who unmasked to express secessionist garbage" ellisonz Jan 2013 #392

How do you alert the admins of a new troll bongbong Jan 2013 #288

Not sure, but I just billh58 Jan 2013 #290

Yep, and the ignore feature will billh58 Jan 2013 #295

so this is like a baptist church saltire Jan 2013 #305

Baptists who observe the community standards here are ok mokawanis Jan 2013 #363

Are you claiming that 'gun nuts' Jenoch Jan 2013 #268

That is some bullshit right there. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #179

It's as humane as it gets from a helicopter. Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #378

'from a helicopter'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #382

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #387

There is a REASON you do not shoot blindly into brush like that. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #388

While you're still here..... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #403

You and your helicoptering have saved us all from the brutal hogs, Sarah. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #385

Don't waste your time here. Indydem Jan 2013 #193

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #218

"Only the children are left here to call you a murderer." Quite the opposite. Robb Jan 2013 #269

Question is - do you carry a gun when you venture into public? Hoyt Jan 2013 #208

yes, I'm one of the good guys saltire Jan 2013 #219

What I find disturbing is that although billh58 Jan 2013 #232

what an odd reply..wrong on so many levels saltire Jan 2013 #267

"good guys" bongbong Jan 2013 #272

Lanza was on very dangerous psych meds saltire Jan 2013 #278

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #283

I consider Rush.. saltire Jan 2013 #313

Not one of the choices bongbong Jan 2013 #318

So you still got one billh58 Jan 2013 #320

Concealed intelligence bongbong Jan 2013 #323

And yet you come billh58 Jan 2013 #273

is this an adult group saltire Jan 2013 #292

Several points nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #321

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #328

I do love the NRA talking points. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #331

nra talking points saltire Jan 2013 #338

Son it is, and here it is better nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #339

He wasn't bragging, he was ASKED. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #354

What an odd dissappearance billh58 Jan 2013 #355

So was Zimmerman, Loughner, Holmes, Stawicki, etc., right up till they weren't. Hoyt Jan 2013 #251

And he's so billh58 Jan 2013 #233

That's my take, as well. Hoyt Jan 2013 #253

we are disussing guns here saltire Jan 2013 #271

Do you have anything other billh58 Jan 2013 #275

I don't know what NRA talking points are.... saltire Jan 2013 #297

Usually Gordonfan24 Jan 2013 #377

Hey buddy, if you can't hit a hog with a traditional gauge shot gun..... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #240

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Um, no I haven't. Congratulations, you win the big manly man prize. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #383

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You laughed, and then you laughed your fucking ass off. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #394

Hey, Gordonfan24: Can You and Me be Buddies???? NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #401

Nope, sorry. Lone wolf rides alone. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #402

Here's the problem with your argument jeff47 Jan 2013 #249

Personally, I'd like all semi-autos banned, including handguns. Hoyt Jan 2013 #257

scarce guns, you have got to be kidding.. saltire Jan 2013 #330

I noticed you completely ignored our history with automatic weapons jeff47 Jan 2013 #345

They're Used So Rarely, Because Gun Control Works. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #346

Welcome, welcome! what a coinkydink, indeed Hekate Jan 2013 #132

why azureblue Jan 2013 #137

Welcome to new members who, just coincidentally, use assault rifles to hunt! The CCC Jan 2013 #143

Close, but no cigar. billh58 Jan 2013 #194

Honest Question: How would you feel about compulsory registration... Taverner Jan 2013 #146

I don't know about him, tradecenter Jan 2013 #161

As long as .... bongbong Jan 2013 #164

I like that idea! Taverner Jan 2013 #170

Insurance isn't required for your car, it's only required if you drive it on a public road. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #181

So? Taverner Jan 2013 #188

Keep moving those goalposts. :) n/t Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #198

Then do you have a better solution? Taverner Jan 2013 #200

I never said anything like that. You came up with those words yourself. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #206

Certainly involves that Taverner Jan 2013 #209

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #211

And you take a band-aid approach to it. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #220

Unicorns & candy bongbong Jan 2013 #228

Just gun deaths, which they had very few of to begin with. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #231

Never the less bongbong Jan 2013 #262

No it didn't Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #341

Yeah, and when England banned guns, knife crimes went up so bad they considered banning them.. Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #282

knives? bongbong Jan 2013 #287

Yes, Knives... so apparently you can read.. comprehension may be different Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #294

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #309

In rural areas? What are you shooting? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #263

I don't see a problem with the insurance part. tradecenter Jan 2013 #172

I'm ok with registration as well. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #184

It's insurance for USE of the gun bongbong Jan 2013 #187

You bet it does. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #190

insurance bongbong Jan 2013 #203

Does your car insurance cover an intentionally criminal act like this one? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #207

Evidence? bongbong Jan 2013 #210

I think you misunderstood me. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #212

???? bongbong Jan 2013 #214

That's not how it works. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #216

Nope bongbong Jan 2013 #224

Not true. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #229

Costs bongbong Jan 2013 #265

Very simple. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #277

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #281

No economies of scale? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #299

No economy of scale bongbong Jan 2013 #306

Guns in most calibers are certainly capable of killing people. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #314

???? bongbong Jan 2013 #324

Yes I do. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #326

Honest questions are the most dishonest of all Politicub Jan 2013 #336

So your honest answer to my "dishonest" question is? Taverner Jan 2013 #357

Honest Question: How would you feel about compulsory registration... The CCC Jan 2013 #168

TBH, it may indeed bo coincidental in some cases. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #185

re: Welcome to new members who, just coincidentally, use assault rifles to hunt! View profile allan01 Jan 2013 #196

I third that motion DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #217

New Talking Points bongbong Jan 2013 #225

I live in a hunter area xmas74 Jan 2013 #234

Name-calling? Check. Bake Jan 2013 #235

Ignore list? Check. billh58 Jan 2013 #242

Well, THAT was certainly helpful... derby378 Jan 2013 #310

Knock yourself out, newbie. Bake Jan 2013 #319

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #264

Yeah, us "Delicate Flowers" need to start referring to them as "Stink Weeds" due to the stench Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #296

Delicate Flowers and Precious once again. You are truly a one-trick-pony. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #325

They have to because they depend on hunting to survive. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #327

obedient little fuckers, aren't they? Skittles Jan 2013 #333

Who will protect our precious bodily fluids? Politicub Jan 2013 #335

NA In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #353

I'm only posting flvegan Jan 2013 #370

Congrats In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #400

And another adultlike post from the bong crowd rl6214 Jan 2013 #389

Speaking of adult posts bongbong Jan 2013 #399

It is definitely working. janx Jan 2013 #395