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karynnj

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23. I have major problems with any grades that are assigned based on "policies"

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:08 PM

Jan 2013

that seem NEGATIVELY correlated to actual achievement!

Looking at NJ (D), MA (D-) and Vermont(F) I am rather amused. They usually are in the top five in any achievement based scale. Yet Florida and Louisiana get the highest scores of B- and have never been seen as peers to say Massachusetts!

No good analytical person would trust a metric that places the states in a way that is so counte to all the more objective metrics. Clearly what these scores show is that the preferred policies do not lead to good results on things like SAT scores or basic Iowa scores - more disturbingly, they are negatively correlated.

What these results do best is to prove that a metric that measures how well a state conforms to her arbitrary preferences does not rank the states in the same order as most metrics that measure performance. It shows they are not working.

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Michelle Rhee's group gave D and F grades to most states in this country for their school policies. [View all] madfloridian Jan 2013 OP

That bullshit on Morning Joe made me sick. Atman Jan 2013 #1

Missed that. Was Rhee on the show? I never watch Morning Joe. madfloridian Jan 2013 #6

Parents are very much to blame for the troubles in education. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #2

I am frustrated at the apathy but I'm not sure it's on purpose liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #35

Help for parents, someplace to go for advice.... madfloridian Jan 2013 #36

Ridiculous. Apparently, results do not matter,. Mass Jan 2013 #3

Yes, that is right. madfloridian Jan 2013 #5

Scam! immoderate Jan 2013 #4

And there's no correlation between these scores and student achievement!! proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #7

Did you catch the D to New York? They follow her policies carefully. madfloridian Jan 2013 #8

It's because they haven't completely destroyed tenure yet. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #10

Good for him. Looks like CA lost RTTT money for not obeying Arne. madfloridian Jan 2013 #12

Torlakson rocks. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #46

What a POS she is. Anne Coulter tied to Arne Duncan's Arm! KoKo Jan 2013 #9

Exactly. madfloridian Jan 2013 #13

The "State Policy Report Card, 2013" is highly subjective and clearly non-metric. To use methods jody Jan 2013 #11

Haven't Michelle Rhee's results in DC been found to be the result of cheating on the part of her Squinch Jan 2013 #14

yes on Tuesday and rerun through the week lunasun Jan 2013 #28

Texas got a D? I thought the education powers that be were very reform-minded madfloridian Jan 2013 #15

I like how Mass, Conn, and NJ were middle of the pack NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #16

Vermont's at the very bottom of the fact despite cali Jan 2013 #59

zero creditability madrchsod Jan 2013 #17

Louisiana #1 - yeah right LeftInTX Jan 2013 #18

Is there a comparison of her list and privatization? Downwinder Jan 2013 #19

Their top rated state is Louisiana RomneyLies Jan 2013 #20

opposite of what is actually desired from education..... lunasun Jan 2013 #27

Excellent point! Thanks. madfloridian Jan 2013 #30

+1. but try getting a platform to say that anywhere near what Rhee gets to spout nonsense. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #40

I'll never have any idea how that dishonest woman could have gotten so much clout DonRedwood Jan 2013 #21

Someone gave her this power. Allowed this to happen. madfloridian Jan 2013 #31

+1 progressoid Jan 2013 #22

I have major problems with any grades that are assigned based on "policies" karynnj Jan 2013 #23

The video is just embarrassing. hay rick Jan 2013 #24

K&R Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #25

This makes me sick. LWolf Jan 2013 #26

NYC parents group grades Michelle Rhee. Good for them. madfloridian Jan 2013 #29

K & R historylovr Jan 2013 #32

Okay, so everyone's getting what an attention whore hack she is. Now can we move on and ancianita Jan 2013 #33

They are "taking" the power. We are allowing it to happen. madfloridian Jan 2013 #34

For every failed school or district, we have to point out successes in the same state. ancianita Jan 2013 #42

I HAVE been doing this since 2009. madfloridian Jan 2013 #52

The administration supports hacks like her, & so does the GOP. How do we get rid of hacks like HiPointDem Jan 2013 #39

I hate to say this, but at some point we have to sound like single issue voters. ancianita Jan 2013 #43

that point is long past, i think. yet here we are, & half of du is just bloody alright with charter HiPointDem Jan 2013 #45

I can't accept that for the nation's children. I believe that the public has misplaced its trust ancianita Jan 2013 #47

It's truly bedrock. You oppose public education, you oppose democracy. duffyduff Jan 2013 #55

The political establishment AND the media adore her. madfloridian Jan 2013 #53

The WP covers her rise to power. Pretty weird how she does it. madfloridian Jan 2013 #37

Florida is a top scorer. (B-). That tells you everything you need to know about these assholes. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #38

Well look at the grade the District of Columbia got and davidpdx Jan 2013 #41

I hope with more exposure this whole bullshit fraud foments a groundswell of public pissed-offedness ancianita Jan 2013 #44

I dream of the day when she gets embroiled in a scandal they can't ignore. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #48

Me, too. madfloridian Jan 2013 #63

Just looked up her Wiki: She's a democrat LeftInTX Jan 2013 #49

Michelle Rhee is known by the company she keeps jsr Jan 2013 #64

I cannot stand her. Don't get me started. Jennicut Jan 2013 #50

Michelle Rhee is here, there and everywhere. jsr Jan 2013 #51

That's funny. Like that comparison. madfloridian Jan 2013 #56

The crook Rhee belongs in prison duffyduff Jan 2013 #54

What "elevate teachers" really means. hay rick Jan 2013 #57

Bastards. Minnesota's educational system is the best in the country. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #58

Is there EVEN ONE legislator in Washington, DC who is appalled at Rhee and her Ed "Reform"? We People Jan 2013 #60

Arne was appearing with Rhee during the investigation of her. From the WP in Feb. madfloridian Jan 2013 #61

Thanks again, Madfloridian. I had missed that article before. We People Jan 2013 #62