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customerserviceguy

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143. Is it really progressive

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:22 AM

Jan 2013

to stick your head in the sand, and just assume that Social Security will go on as ever before, even with the baby boomers that sustained it this far finally coming for their own share? Every year since the Great Recession started, the Social Security Trustees have pulled back three years their estimated date as to when the system will not be able to pay full benefits.

I liked the Making Work Pay Credit of the first part of the President's term. It didn't give two thousand dollars a year to people making at or over the cap, and it was the same for the minimum wage worker as it was for the middle class worker. I'll have to look through DU2, but I know I spoke out against the payroll tax holiday idea then, I've always thought it undermined support for the system.

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So I opened my paycheck today---well---actually I get direct deposit.... [View all] trumad Jan 2013 OP

Good counter point. And thanks for your other thread. You have my respect, sir. freshwest Jan 2013 #1

SS is ours JEB Jan 2013 #2

Well liberalmike27 Jan 2013 #104

I think Gerald Ford (R) had it right BlueStreak Jan 2013 #3

Give them an inch and they will take a mile... trumad Jan 2013 #4

BlueStreak knap Jan 2013 #11

LOL - I think everyone here knows this OKNancy Jan 2013 #13

Bush should never be praised for anything. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #14

Yes OccupyManny Jan 2013 #37

Well said my friend and welcome to DU. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #41

Thank you! OccupyManny Jan 2013 #45

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #135

Bush is evil and must never be praised IMO. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #136

To hidden post/poster, The answer is, we are all going to have to give it back,with tons of interest stevenleser Jan 2013 #137

Hey! Iggo Jan 2013 #16

I commend Republicans and criticize Dems when I think it is justified BlueStreak Jan 2013 #17

Who ever said anything about Bush and the Payroll tax cuts? Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #22

BASH! WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2013 #23

Actually, there were quite a few who bashed Bush for that. haele Jan 2013 #51

Yes, the circumstances were completely different from earlier rebates BlueStreak Jan 2013 #59

OOOH! How so VERY informative!!! (LOL, NT) reACTIONary Jan 2013 #54

No one blamed Bush. There's enough other bad shit he is responsible for. djean111 Jan 2013 #106

$300 payoff to look the other way as his administration robbed us. geckosfeet Jan 2013 #107

Actually, I did bash him. WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2013 #138

people don't have to cash tax rebate checks and even if you do you can send it right back to the IRS RB TexLa Jan 2013 #12

Did you scribble a note on it? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #44

No. I did not. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #53

I agree that a tax rebate check would have been better gollygee Jan 2013 #20

I was much happier with Obama's make work pay credit. airplaneman Jan 2013 #43

I GOT THE FORD REBATE ROBROX Jan 2013 #110

I'm glad it's back, too RockaFowler Jan 2013 #5

I guess the White House thinks differently than you do. former9thward Jan 2013 #35

Yet another reason why so many people consider Obama to be a moderate truedelphi Jan 2013 #78

Yes, the corporate welfare in these 'deals' is sickening. former9thward Jan 2013 #92

No wonder I didn't see the difference tavalon Jan 2013 #82

I had $2.40 less. I think I can handle this for a future of having social security. glowing Jan 2013 #6

yep, I agree onethatcares Jan 2013 #8

My company's newsletter blamed Obama. tridim Jan 2013 #7

Agreed! DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #9

I'm not gonna lie, the reduced take home pay this next check is gonna hurt anarch Jan 2013 #10

That is the big issue, not taxation. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #24

+1 (n/t) a2liberal Jan 2013 #56

I missed the memo on the change BlueIndyBlue Jan 2013 #52

Thanks for taking it back to the real issue tavalon Jan 2013 #83

What a fool, the SS payroll tax cut was paid for by the general fund AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #15

The problem is that the general fund is part of the deficit spending. airplaneman Jan 2013 #48

Exactly. n/t truedelphi Jan 2013 #77

can't you make your point without insulting the OP? shireen Jan 2013 #103

Meh ... it provided some stimulus when the GOP was trying to block JoePhilly Jan 2013 #18

Glad to receive $25 less dollars every week vt_native Jan 2013 #19

^^this^^ Freddie Jan 2013 #31

Not a bad idea. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2013 #33

I like it. airplaneman Jan 2013 #49

GOD DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!! roamer65 Jan 2013 #114

BTW, it was just a cut from 12.4% to 10.4% AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #21

You are right, that 2% temporary reduction should NEVER have been done. LoisB Jan 2013 #25

Absolutely! ReRe Jan 2013 #26

I too will receive my SS next Wednesday and will get $26 more doc03 Jan 2013 #27

Good news for those of us in PA Freddie Jan 2013 #28

I do have a question about that, NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #29

The IRS only cares about the negotiable date of the check Freddie Jan 2013 #30

I know to expect between $93 and $94 less in my paycheck on the 15th RomneyLies Jan 2013 #32

HEY ASSHOLE DRUDGE!!!! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #141

Same here. nt obxhead Jan 2013 #34

A lot of people will be hurt. former9thward Jan 2013 #36

Exactly, it seems that this forum humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #60

Exactly! This forum used to be more compassionate...... MzShellG Jan 2013 #68

The reaction can be linked to the fact these folks are in Denial of being misled. Silly Fools Gkdemonut Jan 2013 #119

+1000 just1voice Jan 2013 #89

I'm not rich tavalon Jan 2013 #84

Don't you see what's going on here.. humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #94

I wish I could say the same. aandegoons Jan 2013 #38

The tax holiday was designed to stimulate the economy when the economy was weak. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #39

When the economy was weak... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #61

I was never happy with this from the beginning. airplaneman Jan 2013 #40

Millions of people aren't as lucky humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #62

Actually I really do care and you are very correct - I did not mean to come across as callous. airplaneman Jan 2013 #73

Yes, Yes and Yes again but why humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #74

you have very good points. Sunlei Jan 2013 #76

But, But, but... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #95

A lot of people ae right on edge budget-wise and this will push them over that edge. roamer65 Jan 2013 #115

rec! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #42

Gotta say I disagree democrattotheend Jan 2013 #46

++++ Truly a shame humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #63

F**king A madokie Jan 2013 #47

I had so many calls today asking why their checks were less Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #50

Are you an HR professional? democrattotheend Jan 2013 #140

No, I'm not in HR. I do accounting/payroll. Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #142

K&R a2liberal Jan 2013 #55

B.S. humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #57

I thought it was a creative way (2 years ago) to quick,give Americans a bit of extra spending money. Sunlei Jan 2013 #58

+1 humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #64

I agree with you... tex-wyo-dem Jan 2013 #69

Eliminate The Social Secutiry Cap tavalon Jan 2013 #85

I honestly could not see any difference in my paycheck SheilaT Jan 2013 #65

The average was 800 per year for couple humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #72

I am sure those making minimum wage don't feel the same way. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #66

Must be hidden rightwingnuts on here .... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #70

What---me saying leave SS alone shows lack of empathy? trumad Jan 2013 #79

Yes. Acting like this increase is no big deal because you will not miss the money... NCTraveler Jan 2013 #80

so tell me... trumad Jan 2013 #88

Please explain in detail how they said that...go ahead just1voice Jan 2013 #91

nice strawman trumad Jan 2013 #93

The payroll tax holiday did not take one dime from Social Security. bornskeptic Jan 2013 #123

Trying to get more air time with Rush? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #117

And to add, I do not think they should leave SS alone as you do. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #67

I wholly concur on that one tavalon Jan 2013 #86

K & R! lonestarnot Jan 2013 #71

Big K&R. I want to PAY MORE, and get more out. 401k's suck, IMHO. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #75

I didn't really see much of a change tavalon Jan 2013 #81

I am not rich or well off Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #87

Those complaining about the expiration... jjewell Jan 2013 #90

B.S. this is more D.C. SPEAK... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #97

They're stupid. roamer65 Jan 2013 #118

Good post. It was a bad idea when it was done and it would be an plethoro Jan 2013 #113

When I explained that to my co-workers they were fine with it lunatica Jan 2013 #96

Can I come work with you? humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #99

Sigh... lunatica Jan 2013 #100

No and neither do humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #108

I am so glad I don't know you lunatica Jan 2013 #122

Your complete lack of compassion for those that humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #125

I guess you can't read very well lunatica Jan 2013 #133

I simply don't believe that anyone that humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #134

K&R TBF Jan 2013 #98

I don't pay into SS at my FT job. ileus Jan 2013 #101

agree .... shireen Jan 2013 #102

Tax leroy65 Jan 2013 #105

Why? humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #109

The reality is this Kingwithnothrone Jan 2013 #111

I get all that humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #127

i can't explain it because i'm clearly an idiot shireen Jan 2013 #126

Well you know that THIS OP will not be used as propaganda for Rex Jan 2013 #112

I am utterly amazed by those who support putting the rate back to 6.2 pct... roamer65 Jan 2013 #116

I am utterly amazed Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #120

You really think that taking care of the elderly is just a lower and middle class duty? roamer65 Jan 2013 #121

Why do you even care what the right screeches about... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #129

No that is my argument too.. I expected humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #128

Agreed customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #124

LOL humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #130

You would jeopardise those who depend solely on Social Security to make a point? Kingwithnothrone Jan 2013 #131

Is it really progressive customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #143

I'm with you.. we "lost" about $100 a month SoCalDem Jan 2013 #132

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