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In reply to the discussion: Bad News for the NRA - people are fugging serious [View all]Socal31
(2,491 posts)There is broad support for laws like my home state (CA). I assumed from your tone, which I admit typed text does not have, unless bolded, capitalized, or underlined, that you were for an all-out ban.
It is obvious though you do not understand what a "military" style weapon is, or how one is defined by current state and previous federal law. Even some of the bills floating around would not significantly change the weapons on the market.
If your goal is to give no crazed human being the ability to kill multiple people in a short period of time, I am sad to say that is impossible. Confiscation of "military" style weapons is impossible, and I don't think any legislator or LEO is volunteering to be the first one knocking on doors in Juneau or Helena. Forget solid (R) territory, I don't think any politician in rural Oregon or Washington is willing to end their career for a failed over-reaching bill either. Even Diane's bill includes grandfathering.
If you can name something that is out-right illegal, other than items that only governments have ever possessed (weapons, pathogens, etc), I can show how to get it in your mailbox in 5 days or less if you pay extra. No bill or ban will ever protect your child from someone who is sick and has the determination to kill. Only an alert society re: mental health, and legal gun-owners keeping their guns safe from theft (bio-metric safes) can reduce the chances of something like this happening.
It wasn't that long ago a deranged man in China went on a stabbing spree (last month maybe?). Unguarded children are a major weakness. In any state, in any State, on any inhabited continent in the world, no matter the gun laws. I am sure the Dutch, Mexicans, and Norwegians can attest to this.
I am all for progressive laws to wards screening who owns and what they own depending on their background. Hell, I think even NRA members are for these ideas.
But hey, it isn't like we would ever regret blindly giving up civil rights due to tragedy, right? (Looking at you "Patriot" Act).
On a side note, you didn't really address my comparison. If someone here on DU has bough a product that reached this country via Mexico, do they have the blood of the 13,000+ shot, tortured, and beheaded Mexican citizens in 2011 alone?
We all (mostly) want the same thing. Both fringes are coming out losers in this one. Lets get some real measures in place before the 2014 election is all any politician thinks about.